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You might be surprised to hear this, but it turns out that doing clinical meth every day for 18 months straight can lead to your health completely unraveling.
Who knew, right?
We saw the movie this last week because we did a lot of things this last week. The week before that? Mmm… not so much.
That’s a good thing though! I attended my 18th hospitalization two weeks ago (the “week before that”), and I have to say, by the time your mental health treatment can vote you are more than ready for it to leave the nest and start a life of it’s own. Hopefully your spouse doesn’t immediately drink themselves to death so you can finally get in all that triple-word score time you’ve been meaning to but just didn’t have the chance.
But that’s enough about my first sleep in a lodge bed with my first serious boyfriend for the first time. I’m here for seconds.
Yeah. I was hospitalized. Again. And you know, they moved Mountaincrest to the main hospital facility itself, and it is so much better. It was so spacious! So calm! So… everything I really needed, because, well, doing meth right after electro-convulsive can really fuck with you, and by the time I was going in I had a lot on my plate and no fork.
Now it’s called Westbridge. I guess. ‘Cause there’s a bridge over the street connecting two buildings, and it’s to the west; just like how in America we call autumn “fall,” because LEAF FALL DOWN!
My bruxism, which, I’m still struggling with a bit, but mostly waking, which… that’s not how that normally works—has improved some, resulting in a much less raw tongue. However, I’ve accomplished the insufferable feat of being able to strain my TMJ without clenching, because my mind accomplishes whatever it puts itself to.
By the time I went to the doctor I was a mess:
I felt like every mucosal surface in my body exposed to the air (or not) was constantly severely dehydrated, but what was worse, I could never seem to drink enough. In the two weeks leading up to the hospitalization it was getting worse by the day. The day of intake (I went in for physical symptoms) I woke up, drank an entire pitcher of water (didn’t know that stripping electrolytes was a thing), and then maintained the ‘fix’: what had become spaced routine of eating some protein and drinking every 2 hours as I crashed back into death warming me over.
My heart was beating fast, and it really got going whenever I was angry or ‘worked up’ about anything, and boy was I getting ‘worked up…’
More alarming than, well, that, was my mind. While I was clear and lucid, mostly, and could exercise my rational faculties, I was also disconnected. Ever since electro-convulsive I’ve learned that my brain does not communicate well with my body’s sense of stress. Apparently my body can be hammered with absolute nonsense and my consciousness is like, “Oooh, shiny!” until I’m about ready to die.
But, that’s just the backdrop. The more pressing issue was that, like I previously wrote (which others cruelly mocked in their explanations detailing my clandestine motive for announcing to the world I was so stressed after 18 months that I was going to the doctor rather than announcing it every week to make myself more relatable so others can pay for my counseling sessions because nobody in their right mind would pay me themselves), my sense of emotional ‘normalcy’ was beginning to seriously fray.
Two days before I was hospitalized my husband and I noticed that I couldn’t stop talking. It wasn’t as bad as when I put myself in a 36-hour coma, but, it was like I couldn’t stop saying every thought that popped into my head. This was concerning. That day we were going to go to the clinic, but, the timing didn’t work out and the Urgent Cares had closed before we could get there.
The day I was hospitalized I had almost leapt out of my car to fight with someone else while queuing for the drive-thru Starbucks. Talk about road rage! Thankfully, I was able to stop myself from doing so, but the level of aggression compelling the impulse was quite concerning. Maus had commented two days before (one day before “non-stop talking”) that my ‘reactivity’ was through the roof. I’m sure many noted the accompanying online output as well.
Combine all of that with even further physical health issues: constant exhaustion (tying my shoelaces was exhausting), the feeling of dehydration as if a vacuum was sucking the life out of me (maybe it was), headaches, heart palpitations, a lack of temperature regulation, constant sinus issues, life stressors that had become one of my worst obsessions over the last month (’cause I get obsessive, partially why I take Effexor), being intimidated via the police twice, constantly escalating conflicts, and, well… it’s the perfect storm isn’t it?
And now, I guess it’s the calm after the storm, as eerie as that always is.
Don’t mistake my list for artificial sweetener.
Oh, no. No no no, it definitely is not.
My negative phrasing of such things as ‘worked up’ (which, it wasn’t really), or stating that the state of my mind was “alarming,” or my description of my “sense of emotional normalcy,” or saying I stopped myself from getting into a fight in the same paragraph as my online output should not be taken as indications of ‘course correction.’
The only course of events I’ve ‘corrected’ are my health issues. If your mind frames correcting my health issues as equivalent to behaving the way I’m ‘supposed to’ (as in, be a ‘good person’) then you don’t understand what health is, physically, emotionally, or mentally.
And if that’s you, I can only ask that you give the reality of me a chance before you more-than-insistently compel it to be something else by covering your hand with fabric and waving it around.
Though I may be less pugnacious, my indignation has not made its retreat into the overwhelming embarrassment that’s supposed to muscle me into some sort of apologetic press release if I only had an audience. But, I don’t. And that dense forest of opaque shame doesn’t exist within me, as I’ve already lost myself in the darkness only to be shadow-crowned The King of Global Thermonuclear War.
In other words, you can shove that up your ass and sit with it somewhere not near me.
I’m proud of what I’ve done, whether I was hyped up on clinical meth or not, as all of it was heartfelt, raw, honest, and true.
In light of this, there exists a list, finally, after ~1 year, that I’m going to address fully, that is, outside of…
“Jesus fucking Christ, are you a ghoulish bitch.”
Which was how I first addressed it, except, not really. That’s how Liana Kerzner decided I addressed it, for herself, as she doesn’t decide shit *for me* anymore.
That reaction wasn’t to the list, but rather, to Liana Kerzner summoning the connotations of Father’s Day(which I didn’t even realize it was) right before producing this valuable list, finally, after we asked for it for a year or more, repeatedly.
Since the boy who cried wolf can't even give it a rest on father's day, and is demanding examples of the things he lied about, because he it's [sic] in horrible pain, here is just a sample.
I didn’t even know it was Father’s Day, but apparently Liana Kerzner thought that was important for some reason…
I didn’t “demand” examples of things I allegedly “lied about” (I didn’t). This is a rhetorical escalation Kerzner often employs: take a plain interpersonal interaction and describe it in the worst light; i.e.
not doing something = refused
requesting anything = demand
disagreeing with her = triggering a trauma response
mentioning the quantity of anything, such as words = bragging about it
wondering where all her haters even are = a confession to knowingly inflict harm
not agreeing with her assessment of you = lying to yourself to a pathological degree of avoidance
not agreeing with her assessment of your mistakes = an inability to recognize your mistakes and respect boundaries
discarding “harm minimization” as a strategy for group conflict resolution = proactively trying to “minimize harm”
writing negative things in your own online space that’s very much yours that she doesn’t have to look at = obsessed self-loathing stalking harasser
using a sophisticated rhetorical technique in a long run-on sentence to avoid out of context screen grabs = her making you hurt other people, which is erroneous of course, ’cause she (nor I) can ‘make’ anyone do anything, but nevertheless the local police must be called out of fear she might not be a ‘good person’ after all.
… and so on, you might notice a pattern here. I know I did, and boy is it bland, and tiresome as fuck.
I didn’t “demand” examples of things I allegedly “lied about” (I didn’t) “because” I was in horrible pain… again,
stating you have health issues = your motive for everything, that is, unless it’s a fabrication to garner sympathy, artificially increase urgency, or grab attention using her name
It’s all… so… insufferably banal…
1) Me and a small army of trans women got him banned from bsky.
Not only is this not possible since bsky moderation makes the ultimate decision of who to ban, I didn't even know he had been banned until long after it happened... [continued below]
I never actually said that Liana "and a small army of trans women got [me] banned from bsky," but that’s neither here nor there since it’s her sort-of-reasonable interpretation. Well, I’ll clear it up:
I have suggested that a number of individuals mob-reporting (or mass-/brigade-reporting) got me banned, or “permanently suspended” as they put it, from BlueSky. I see this as a reasonable suspicion considering the number of people currently complaining about this very thing.
As well, Liana Kerzner herself states at one point in the last 18 months that she (and presumably others) kept reporting my posts, so…?
On top of that, Liana’s own Discord Moderator Aileyn identifies various accounts, even purely parodical ones that we don’t have anything to do with, as “abuse[ive]” “hate campaigns,” which, I can reasonably assume means they’re report-worthy to her audience.
More accurate to what I did say were things like:
When the first 72-hour ban was lifted, I immediately posted this thread (86 posts). I shall quote from two of them, “I do not wear the crown fashioned by liars. My friends forge it from shame and call it pride—place it between my ears and tell me to smile while I break, to find strength in silence. But, I don’t bedazzle others with mythic jewels nor gild myself with honor so that they can pretend things are fine. Their feelings will not matter. The storm outside is becoming enraged. It is known as Truth.”
I also posted this thread (6 posts). I quote, “Turns out, I was right (again), BlueSky making it so ‘drama’ could basically be completely ‘erased’ by disconnecting any volatile conversation (so there was no public record) wasn’t such a good idea, doesn’t protect anyone but the ‘right’ people, and is leveraged by abusers who have things to hide.”
And, quite significant to *my* side of everything, I posted this thread (47 posts). I quote, “And yet, somehow, despite reporting the following to BlueSky, twice, this account is still up even after I was banned for harassment for 72 hours over a defense of myself most likely instigated by this account. “Desc specifically targets me, linking to a false and misleading post. Blobs contain similarly misleading images previously posted. The term wunk is unique to me, suggesting hunting. Taxidermy eyes are my eyes photoshopped. Purposefully targeted my account to report harassment. Escalating situation.” They remain. I’m punished. But they keep going unquestioned. And I’m supposed to think this is dignified, safe, and inclusive, or something.” Eventually this account was also permanently suspended as well, however, just not then. I hope this offers a good ‘feel’ for BlueSky’s moderation discretion. Also note that, this account is still up.
And lastly, we can observe this fine illustration of anti-authoritarianism:
For more information on these screenshots, you can take in all my allegedly “unique rage” (that isn’t) towards trans women here (in chronological order):
So there you have it, 11 days, 17 threads, 442 posts, 15,819 words, 66 screenshots and 10 links of pure, “unique,” white-hot rage towards trans women, supposedly. ( /s ) That’s at least 8 days, 15 threads, 59 screenshots and 10 links more than Liana Kerzner has ever provided of anything significant over the last 18 months.
If you’d like to see my treatment of cisgender individuals for contrast you need look no farther than 2025-05-21 04:48:25.561 (29 posts 678 words 42 screenshots 3 links), or https://x.com/asherwolfstein/status/20…, one of several threads posted on June 16, 2026.
Given all of this, I think that it is reasonable for me to *suspect* either of two things:
That my *involvement* in Kerzner’s ridiculous behavior, because I was the target, garnered the attention of the usual local individual, being, I believe, Louis Michael Cseke, and his ‘sock’ accounts added to the pressure for BlueSky to permanently suspend me (something I also remarked on before shortcutting it to Kerzner and friends), and,
That Liana Kerzner and her friends (some of whom happen to be trans women, which, is super important to Liana and not so much to me) “got me banned” by reporting me a whole bunch, and that BlueSky’s moderation is/was too automated and prone to this kind of pressure, especially when you consider that a parody account that made zero reference to Liana Kerzner was permanently suspended for impersonating Liana Kerzner. You can also check out a whole other independent third-party complaining that criticizing Liana Kerzner results in these very same things, in two threads even!
What the fuck else am I supposed to think? Well, probably what you’re allegedly ‘supposed’ to think:that my permanent suspension had nothing to do with anyone but myself despite the fact that for anyone to care someone has to be actually be offended, obviously.
[continued] the ultimate decision of who to ban, ... because he blew up and doxed me in retaliation for it.
Liana has a woeful habit of interpreting someone’s motivations and then acting as if her interpretation is fact. It’s not the interpretation itself that is the problem, as trying to discern someone else’s possible motives is a part of interpersonal skills. It’s the “acting as if it’s a fact” that’s the big major issue, and it’s a mistake (generously) that Liana makes over and over again… and why? Well…
I’ll exercise my own inferential powers, because you *must* use inference if you hope to be anywhere near the ballpark of accuracy, and offer up the following:
Liana Kerzner has a very strong sense of self-narrative, or, as she might put it,
bullshit involved in lying to yourself.
To maintain this self-narrative, where the only thing she’s ever guilty of is being “too understanding,” “too patient,” and “too accommodating,” or, in other words, too ‘good’ of a person, Liana goes to very great, relentless lengths to eliminate anything that runs counter to her fantasy, lest she become the “villain of her own story” rather than the hero.
One way of eliminating someone who keeps saying things that run counter to this fictitious self-image is to discredit them by any means possible. This includes mental health stigma, for sure, but also just plain caricature on its own.
One of the best ways to caricature someone is to give them believable-enough motivations that come across as childish, petty, vindictive, and so on… all adjectives her former Kiwi Farming community member Giancarlo Vanzzini used to describe me when I attempted to link him to a real-life face.
It’s really quite an amazing tuning, considering she led the thread with the extremely childish moniker “the boy who cried wolf,” despite me saying I’d like her to just use my name so it would be extremely clear who she is talking about. “The Gruesome Twosome” is another example of this, one she called “cutesy,” when, by that very connotative description, also means it’s childish.
Not only is this a massive assumption based purely on her admittedly spotty observations, and thus recollections (since she “didn’t know” which… well, we’ll see), but it’s also untrue. However, don’t miss the usual linguistic transformation-
being upset about something Liana does and expressing it = blowing up
doing anything that’s inconvenient to Liana = blowing up AND retaliation
This has already been addressed, and I quote, “The bullet points above provide accurate and definitive reasoning behind the publication, as has always been presented. This has always been the justification for the publication of this information.” as written on https://originalpursuitsllc.com/ in connection with this very claim, that was already made (and which was wrong then too).
But, let’s assume the reader has no idea that exists. Well… the truth is still there, but it’s more complex and involves a timeline, because, that’s life:
There are multiple “doxxings” (as she refers to them), that she could be talking about (I do not consider any of these “doxxing”):
My “doxxing” of Giancarlo Vanzzini, a former Liana Kares community member and verified Kiwi Farmer
My original publication of the “very ugly fight” (as she refers to it)
My “doxxing” of her lawyer’s address and phone number
My publication of the majority of Liana and I’s telegram chats (sans the last 4 months)
According to Liana I “blow up” all the time, so it’s hard to say which one she’s specifically talking about, but the way the post reads, it’s at me being permanently suspended from BlueSky. However, I actually have the exact dates things occurred so, let’s review them:
The permanent suspension occurred on May 31, 2025.
I published the “very ugly fight” on … WIP
2) We never had a business relationship.
Completely false not only was he my web host, it was not a free thing. I paid for the service. After I posted a literal receipt proving the business relationship, his husband refunded my money but neither of them publicly retracted, or apologized for, the false statement
I quote from that in-depth article, “This inaccurate portrayal, of Asher claiming there was never a business relationship, has never been the justification for the publication of this information.” Two birds with one stone. It’s all there, so, there’s no real need to publish it verbatim again and spend even more time shouting into the very long wind.
The sequence of events as Liana expresses having experienced may make sense that way to her, but, there’s also me in this situation, and here’s how it looks from my end, and how it was also explained:
After Liana kept obsessively transforming our entire relationship *into* a business relationship involving her as a customer of the hosting service I did, in fact, run as the former member-owner of Original Pursuits LLC (as of this writing), I reluctantly refunded everything she paid the company.
She was “reading [Novelty Factor Hosting] for filth” (oookay…) on Bluesky simultaneously, which, you can check out my June 7, 2026 update on what led to two disingenuous welfare checks, and eventually a hospitalization(though that part’s not in there because it hadn’t happened yet), and so, it appears she’s convinced herself that her “filth reading” was the impetus for the refund. It wasn’t. It was to sever that relationship so that she couldn’t continue to warp our *entire friendship* into a business transaction, which she was doing, and did, to the police, at least twice to our knowledge.
*I* pushed the refund decision. Because Original Pursuits LLC doesn’t currently have a bank account or PayPal funds (since it’s financial activity has been minimal as of late), the transaction was completed by my husband’s account.
If Liana Kerzner wished to see a "public retract[ion], ... [or] apolog[y] ... for, the false statement" then she’s in control of that, because, her statement is the one that is false. If she was willing to hear how I never made that claim, and that her statement was inaccurate, then all she had to do was go to Original Pursuits LLC or LinkedIn and see what I *actually* said, rather than what she decides I’ve said *for herself.*
For the completionist, I quote:
And again, Liana and I have had zero professional communications. Everything she ever told me about anyone was “dishing.”
This is not a claim of having no professional relationship. Kerzner purchasing services from Novelty Factor Hosting placed Kerzner and Asher in a professional relationship, albeit a highly limited one. This professional relationship was constrained to the services provided, and the framework in which those services were provided including support tickets. The professional relationship did not reach beyond that.
Any discussion concerning what packages Kerzner might want to set up, suggestions to take up a promotion, was done on friendly and casual terms, much like the services Asher continued to offer for free; services he was in control of and paid the company for.
They were his.
There was no professional discussion or interaction outside of the control panel offered at my.noveltyfactor.com and its ticket support system. This is what Asher is saying. Kerzner has a very long history of reinterpreting what Asher says in strange ways, not once conceding that what he says are his motivations, thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are actually what they are, and instead consistently overwriting them with her own armchair psychological diagnoses consisting of inferiority complexes, self-loathing, hatred of women, guilt, inability to feel or face his emotions, and a slew of other claims that no doctor Asher has ever seen would ever endorse.
Liana Kerzner is not licensed or has any credentials or qualifications when it comes to mental health treatment. These are opinions presented as advice, facts, and explanations of the much maligned and dangerous “stalker”; a term she uses to refer to Asher, Pablo, Emily Schooley, and any other inconvenient critic.
There’s nothing to retract, and nothing to apologize for. All obligations on this exist purely in the fantastical mind of Liana Kerzner. In fact, it’s odd that Kerzner lists this, in my opinion, since she’s aware of this explanation (though, probably from my X account rather than LinkedIn because she is not a professional, she just plays one on YouTube):
I don’t know what IT professionals she’s talking about, but, that doesn’t sound right to me, an IT professional, so, there ya go. If anything, I am chastising myself as an IT professional for allowing such a conversation to happen outside of the ticket system, and now I relegate all future conversations of this nature to the ticket system.
Either way, that’s how the chips fall as it’s in the Terms of Service she agreed to.
And since, in my opinion, and in the official opinion of Original Pursuits LLC, the company I was formerly a member-owner of, I didn’t “doxx” anyone, so there’s nothing to take ownership of. Just because someone says something, such as “I was doxxed!” doesn’t make it a fact.
Even if Maus had told her at some point that he didn’t know anything about Enterprise Exchange Email, that doesn’t mean he will forever not know anything about Enterprise Exchange Email.
In fact, he does know about Enterprise Exchange Email now, as do I!
However, *I* didn’t know anything about Enterprise Exchange Email then either, and you can tell when you peruse the chat logs (which aren’t up yet).
But, I figured it out, as I always do.
Not only that, but I wrote the ominous, apparently “threatening,” (and “doxxing”?) plain HTML page that was on kerznermedia.com (a package *I* owned) explaining how to change her DNS information, which is all public, so that she wouldn’t experience the same issue she had before.
It was up *for months* after *she herself* had told us she was switching. She announced it, and yet, she expects us to notify *her* when we’re going to turn off a package *I* owned.
The point is, even if Maus didn’t know, *I* knew, and he could ask me, or he could tell me to do it. It wasn’t that I turned off my ability to do anything related to Liana Kerzner (that’s not how splitting works, not that Kerzner would actually know). It was that I couldn’t talk to her.
Also, when you use a ticket system you’re still communicating with a person. The ticket system does not use automated responses. At all. It’s operated purely by humans. So, you are talking to a human. The human on the other end doesn’t change simply because the format of communication changes. And none of it is outsourced.
Liana Kerzner conflates details like this all the time into conglomerations that are quite bizarre when you stop and consider what she’s saying for more than 5 seconds, which, if you don’t, I don’t blame you… but you should.
Oh, I also wrote about the DNS and this situation on 2025-01-14 19:21:36.311 440 words 12 posts 1 screenshot.
I’ve never actually said that Liana Kerzner is a bad person, not that it’s relevant.
No business conversation occurred. Thus, no business conversation became a fight, and besides, what IT professional worth his salt would *fight* with a customer? Unless, of course, he’s completely incompetent, right? This is suspicious flag #1 – a “business conversation” turned into a “fight.”
Yeah… no.
The only type of conversation that occurred was friendly and casual discussion between friends, nothing more.
She didn’t give *me* the money for the services. She didn’t agree to anything *with me* for the services. She didn’t go to *my website* to manage her services. I mistakenly allowed her to pass information to me regarding her packages and decisions, and I now regret doing this because it obviously confused the boundaries of the relationship(s), which, you might notice is something Liana Kerzner loves to do; just ask Song W Eretson.
And the thing about friendly and casual discussion between friends is that there are two people in those discussions. That means there are two sets of interests and rights. And I know Liana knows this because she made it very clear to me that’s the way these things go.
And the fact is, you don’t have the right to tell other people that they can’t share what you said to them without establishing that expectation *first.* I wrote about this very phenomenon early on in my BlueSky endeavors: 2024-10-26 19:54:08.036 (7 posts 213 words 1 screenshot and… at least 1 copy-pasted sentence)
The fact is simple: you can’t revoke consent *after the fact* which, if you pay very close attention to the It’s Not Therapy episode featuring Jessica Bryce Routhier (known as Poppy Diabolique, which, that’s the name they use in the episode despite Kerzner chastising people for not using their real names elsewhere), you might notice implicit approval to do so.
I’ve written previously that, had I known I was to never share a single thing Liana ever said to me, I *would have never talked to her.*
Seriously. This is a thing that’s happened, and I refused, just not with Kerzner because she didn’t want to offer me the choice of saying no.
3) He had access to my Discord server..
This was an especially malicious one, because I told him & his husband multiple times that one of my PTSD triggers is the feeling I'm being spied on. For weeks he was claiming to have current access to my invite-only server, threatening to release dox. It became increasingly clear he didn't know.
what was going on in that server because he was adamant that we were chronically gossiping about him. If he'd actually been spying, or had a spy in the server, he would have known we weren't.
I cannot recall, nor have I seen in my Telegram chat logs, any time Liana Kerzner told me a single one of her “PTSD triggers” outside of the “very ugly fight.” I have adamantly denied knowing them in any detail save that she explicitly said that one of them was that former friends would “join the stalker,” which, having known me for 5 years is a weird fear since I don’t join shit.
Fuck, I’m most likely blacklisted from the Classic Gamer’s Guild for eternity, and that’s A-OK by me, (this is actually an important fact for later). So… for her to assume, even irrationally, that I’d go lock arms with TransTruthTeller or Emily of all people is, well, overly confident really.
And speaking of delusionally confident, guess who tried? Well, not the one linked to a flesh-and-blood other person, so… draw your own conclusions. * Anyway, that’s it. That’s the only trauma trigger I know about. And I haven’t done that.
So…?
Here Liana overreaches. She once again assumes to precisely know the extent of my knowledge simply by asserting it, and once again, she doesn’t determine the reality of what I know or have access to because she needs to feel reassured (a generous assumption), or she needs her audience to feel reassured (a less generous assumption).
The reality is that-
I never claimed I had direct access to the Lianarama Discord server.
I do have indirect access to the Lianarama Discord server.
Here’s some recent exchanges:
Here they have decided that the YouTube user @casterwolflena71805 is somehow either me (or “us”) or possibly Stalker-Chan. This would be immense news to me and my husband since Maus talks to casterwolflena71805 almost every other day or so right now, and she’s very much a real person. But see, according to previously published screenshots featuring her moderator Aileyn, we don’t know what it’s like to have friends, so the much more likely reality, apparently, is that we’re all of Liana’s critics.
She does this a lot, and the purpose is clear to me, or at least the effect: it reduces the number of individuals that have an issue with what she’s doing to the smallest number possible so that it doesn’t seem like a big deal. And if that doesn’t work, well, there are no independent actors in Liana’s world (or Emily’s), and so, anyone speaking up out of their own concern is a proxy harasser (or, as Emily put it, a “flying monkey”), or “brainwashed,” or … however, if this “no independent actors” thing was true, then none of this is actually about Liana, it’s about me hating Poppy. In other words, it’s dogshit.
Oh, also, notice how koubou says, “They really are involved in that identity aren’t they? I knew who it was based on the name alone.”
And that’s quite neat isn’t it? I used to fall prey to this as well, and I’m a bit embarrassed by it, but nevertheless, I persist. Koubou *doesn’t* actually know who it is, and that even shows in his qualifying statement that’s oddly reassuring to him, but which, when you step back and consider it for 10 seconds, doesn’t make a lot of sense.
And if you’re in camp Liana, I’ll have to explain:
Kooubou is implying that I must be so stuck on the furry thing that I can’t pretend to *not* be a furry even when I’m pretending to be someone else, which, only makes sense if you assume that I’m a deranged incompetent that doesn’t know how subterfuge works, which… at this point is a really poor choice since revealing subterfuge is, like, my life’s purpose.
Despite this being highly dissonant, because my ineptitude doesn’t seem to always line up with my sophistication, it doesn’t deter his conclusion. On the contrary, it reinforces his conclusion because now he can join in on shitting on me, the bad guy of the year.
Liana *confirms* this, though, with plausible deniability by placing it on “Stalker Chan” (who she made sure to tell me was Emily Schooley within the first few months of talking to her online).
Then it’s reaffirmed, again, by hansoskar, who, if you might remember, decided that it was a perfectly okay thing to conclude that my regard for initiation rites of some kind (“rites of passage”), which is one of great disdain, says everything about me as a ‘good’ or ‘bad’ person, or whatever, because, I guess, according to Liana, he has historical oppression trauma by Nazis or Communists or whathaveyou… just. like. me.
So… yeah, no excuse. He’s just an asshole, and, strangely, Liana agreed, which is why one of her lukewarm moderators I only remember as “Dildo” apologized to me for dropping the ball… to which I accepted and then made clear what I was *actually* upset about and that I didn’t require an apology. I’m sure that came across as deranged in perfect Lianarama retrospect.
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Notice a couple things here real quick:
1) kooubou *diagnoses* us as codependent
2) no one asks what I’d immediately ask, which is “Jealousy over what?” because, yeah, I’m not jealous in the slightest
3) she pretty much admits that her posts *are* about us, implicitly, by complaining that she’d have to “make every post boring” in order to “grey rock” us, as if that would be a thing… why would they be boring Liana? and
4) men apparently don’t perform taking exception to being attacked or hurt even though… this makes my brain hurt, honestly… even though that’s not really a gendered thing seeing as how Liana is “male-coded” and takes exceptions to being “attacked and hurt” all the freakin’ time.
Kooubou once again overreaches in his opinion, emulating Liana. Considering that, if *I* may venture to assume a shit ton (I’m never “allowed” to, but who gives a fuck? Oh, that’s right, her beloved autistic clients like Bobby because they do what she says; a direct quote), kooubou behaves like a younger person with a certain naivete, and, considering I’m 43 and kooubou is, I’m gussing, 28? this is a pretty fucking huge inferential leap… except, I’m sure he didn’t make that leap himself.
And I should know, as I didn’t make a number of inferential leaps myself either, and I only realized they weren’t accurate when I disconnected from the Lianaganda and then made the trek myself.
I came to extremely different conclusions. Ones that make a *lot* more sense because a *lot* more lines up.
What exactly is the co-dependency? It’s never explained, but, gosh, that just sounds so familiar…
I could go on and on and on about these kinds of screenshots, because in every instance of this… what is this? Is this gossiping? I think this is gossiping about us, on… *squints eyes ’cause I need glasses I can’t afford yet* June 26, 2026…
Okay, so her list of alleged “lies” was on the 20th. I’m not in a position right now to find an example prior to that, but I know they exist (I’m transitioning computers ’cause I broke my old one), but this is 6 days later, which, I was ackshually halfway through my psych ward stay when this occurred. Which really makes the comment by ariwl1 stand out: “Some of these people really do need mental health help. Otherwise I really don’t get the mindset of following someone around that you profess to hate when you would never have to deal with them if you didn’t push yourself.”
But, see… I *do* have mental health help. The assumption is, if I don’t act in a way that *they* would, that *they* deign healthy, that *they* believe is appropriate, then I must be mentally ill.
Yeah, it’s that harsh.
No, there isn’t any softening it, not now, not after all of this.
And I say the reality harshly, and I use the word ‘deign’ because ariwl1 is describing Liana Kerzner’s behavior in the days leading up to my hospitalization, as explained by Maus in Liana Kerzner Is Harassing Herself (And Wants You To Stop).
What do they say? “Rules for thee but not for meeee…” or some other trite and nightmarish goblin phrase?
They always speak with such certainty about crap as if they just *know* the proper way to live, but, notice what’s missing in ariwl1’s self-doxxing? Their step-dad making a point of overwriting their entire public identity with narrative abuse until they’re a veritable scapegoat sock puppet. I suspect ariwl1 might feel a bit differently if that were the case, which, it might be because *I* can actually say “I don’t know.”
And, wait wait wait… if I was *in the hospital* then how the fuck did I write that comment?
Kooubou… my something in arms… YOU KNOW NOTHING by the name of that account you myopic moron! Stop drinking the Kool-Aid, it’s going to hurt you when it’s your turn!
Here Liana Kerzner also displays that she is actively *not* listening to what we’re saying. She hears it, she’s aware of it enough to state that she doesn’t believe it, and then fills in her own armchair psychobabble.
In the hospital, I ran this situation by licensed professionals with years of experience, and believe you me, I did not spare either side, and you know what licensed professionals thought?
They thought Liana Kerzner was extremely concerning. That’s what they thought. As well, they were concerned about the effects all of this was clearly having on me, and the fact that Liana, as a “peer counselor” didn’t seem to care about that, but rather, mocked it. I quoted her posts word for word by the way, without my phone, because I have a really good memory.
Speaking of being able to cite history and reality accurately, which, I don’t know what the fuck “fake rational” is unless Liana is describing her reading comprehension during a conflict, but what’s funny to me is that Liana should know exactly who that commenter is. I know I do! And I also know that was purely of their own accord. It’s amusing she doesn’t seem to know…
Until you realize that she probably *does* know, much like how there wasn’t any way she *didn’t* know who that woman in the bizarro video on the alleged “Jen’s” blog was when it was clearly Charlene Zacks, someone she worked with on TV in the show This Movie Sucks!
And what would that mean?
It would be another example of her lying by omission, which is her least favorite thing when others do it.
So, you can see then, without much FUnfare or digging, I do have *indirect* access to the Lianarama Discord.
I’ve never hid this fact.
In fact, in allusion to it, I posted how I used to ‘hack’ into the middle school computers (I guess) and then immediately tell Mr. Stegner about it because I thought he’d like to know. I haven’t hid it because I thought Liana, and her audience, would appreciate knowing that, no, it isn’t “private.” Functionally, it’s as public as a subscription-based newspaper.
I’ve also posted about how the moderators and Liana herself *acknowledge* this fact when they tell members that what they write has the chance of showing up elsewhere on the Internet. And they’re not wrong, it does, like in this fine example below:
In the end, I’m not “spying” on her Discord. I’m not even *in* her Discord!
But, I have *access* to her Discord indirectly, and can gain whatever information from it I desire, which, isn’t much.
This access isn’t one of ‘hacking’ as maybe my poorly placed paragraphs may lead you to conclude. No, it’s simply a matter of a mole. Not every member of Lianarama is perfectly happy with the Kool-Aid she’s serving.
I knew about these screenshots the day I got out of the hospital. It isn’t a secret. It isn’t me performing bravado to menace someone.
It’s just a public Discord, and they should probably reconcile with that fact before too long.
The strange thing is… to me at least… Liana would do far better to just take what I say at face value because I say what I mean. If I say that I have every Discord message since the cancellation, then, I have every Discord message since the cancellation. It’s really that simple. But, apparently, it’s much more desirable to assume nothing I say is reality, even though, I rarely say something that isn’t reality.
I mean, even when I believed I was a zombie rat from space, here to save the human race, it was still a thing I conceded must be something I believe since I didn’t actually look like a rat and instead had to use “advanced rat technology,” which, the other inmates made fun of me for. True story!
If I tell you I have access and can pull up whatever, then, I do! Even Mr. Stegner believed me after the first incredulous laugh.
They always laugh.
And I always say, “You laugh now.”
It really would be so much easier to simply believe me when I say something instead of trying to “infer” for yourself what, ultimately, you *want* me to be saying.
I wrote about this. One of my top ten sayings on echo 'Hello, World'; was
“If you have to listen twice, it’s because you keep hoping to hear what you want.”
You know it’s true because it gets results, not because it’s on a throw pillow.
Oh.
And, by the way, I told Liana about a man named Louis Michael Cseke 10+ times during our 5-year friendship over the course of those 5 years, meaning I mentioned hm multiple times every year. I mentioned him, I believe, 30+ times actually. I showed her screenshots of Ayn Fand, who we believe is Michael. And I showed her screenshots of the bizarre last text exchange we endured when we asked for our property back (which we got back). He has a very distinctive writing voice. He likes to say Cheers!
And after she posted that some anonymous crank sent her a veiled death threat in the form of getting the “Charlie Kirk treatment,” which, I couldn’t care less about Charlie Kirk other than people shouldn’t die like that (but doesn’t Liana just encourage people who think I’m a conservative to think I am more so?), Maus revealed in a YouTube video that we believe Michael is the one most likely sending the messages. It would make a lot of sense.
Apparently TOO much sense for Liana.
When that happened, Liana deftly avoided the entire subject except to exclaim to her Discord that it was a ridiculous notion to expect her to have *known about this third guy ‘Mario’* despite Maus’ video featuring the exact same screenshots I sent her on Telegram. I guess she recognizes him like she recognizes Charlene… which is to say not at all as long as it distracts a profoundly mentally ill person long enough to get her project finished (her words, not mine).
Despite then *knowing* about the ‘Mario’ guy, she still broadcast an episode of It’s Not Therapy where she spent a significant amount of time describing an anonymous message she received, pinning it on “two people” who she had “business dealings with” and discussing its ridiculous contents concerning being labeled “Rude,” and blaming her, when these people commit the completely mystifying sin of arguing with total strangers on the Internet.
On Patreon, when shit hit the fan, she described the episode as being about “no one in particular!” with much compassionate indignation.
This is all to say, she read an anonymous message and pinned it either on me, or on Maus, while being *completely aware* of the ‘Mario’ guy.
And when I published the chat logs and provided a detailed, dated, and timestamped list of all the times this individual was discussed, complete with those same screenshots, Liana never addressed it. Her presumed counsel, Mark Bourrie, deactivated his Twitter however… of course, that’s because he’s a coward who does that when the going gets tough because he reactivates it after the blow over.
He hopes people forget, just like Liana.
But, nobody’s forgotten. It just hasn’t been addressed.
Liana has been desperately burying it by flinging things left and right, like this incredibly insulting thread, hoping I’d spin out… I presume, as this is pure speculation on my part.
And I did! And what’s not on my site right now? Chat logs! The list of times I talked about it!
But, it’s in Maus’ videos! And it will be back here again soon.
So…
Talking about things people told each other that are now allegedly being weaponized?
*ahem*
She knew about Louis Michael Cseke.
This is an especially malicious misdirection, because I told her multiple times that I’m very afraid of being set up for a crime I didn’t commit by Cseke due to his constant attempts at triangulation, his near-obsessive focus on me, and his obvious willingness to stigmatize my mental health and discredit me. For months she’s been claiming that we’re sending her horrible, disturbing messages, saying they consist of pure nonsense, veiled death threats, and even reading them on the air, all while not sharing with us the data concerning those messages. It’s become increasingly clear that this is for a very particular purpose, since she has refused to disclose the message data to our contact so that we might move forward with a protection order. We’ve been adamant it’s not us, we believe it’s Cseke, and that we even have reason to suspect our car has been tracked or surveilled.
If she was actually concerned about my welfare, since she called the cops about it twice, she’d disclose all of the data surrounding those messages that she has, either publicly, or to our contact, so that we could move forward in protecting ourselves from this individual as we believe is necessary.
But, she hasn’t, she doesn’t, and it appears she won’t.
Liana’s not the only person in the room who’s trauma triggers have allegedly been ignored to the detriment of her mental health. She’s just the most visible because she’s positioned herself as the good person and me as the terrible person who brings it on himself.
I now expect, in all her magnanimous care, for Liana Kerzner to explain why she has done what she has done with the knowledge she has, as she has demanded we do for her now after 18 months of us doing exactly that.
4) That I lied about him when I shuttered a Kickstarter project in 2024.
Utterly false
if there was a lie here, it came from his husband, who did work on the game, & blamed him for repeatedly missing deadlines the husband had set himself. The husband sent me hours of recordings of "ragers" as he called them - recordings of the boy who cried wolf verbally abusing and screaming. At the time I thought this was done at his consent. I later realized that was not true. He had been secretly recorded. Still, the claims I made were ones I believed to be factual.
He and his husband insist that I have blamed them for all the delays. This is not and was never true. n the original post offering backers refunds, I clearly said these were only SOME of the delays. I took responsibility for failures in leadership and letting things go on too long. They insist I was avoiding responsibility, but I was being kind...
I did not mention the husband doing no work on the project for six weeks straight while he did a singing contest. Strangely, during this time, the mentally ill spouse he was recording didn't cause catastrophic disruptions. Of course, once that was done, it was the mental illness again.
I let that six weeks happen. That was on me. I should have gotten tougher on him. My mistake. But none of this was what I said caused me to ultimately pull the plug. It was that the boy who cried wolf was harassing people online and showed zero intentions of stopping. He did, and does, have a particular focus on trans people. During pride month, he's mocked two trans women content creators and he mocked my non binary identity, referring to me as a "fake man". He made vulgar comments about me maturbating as if I had a penis. No, I won't subject you to those
The game contained a prominent trans masc character from the web series the game was based on. I realized I could not release a game with multiple trans and non binary characters in it while the spouse of a key team member was harassing trans people. I was right: he's still harassing trans people.
THAT was why I pulled the plug. Not the delays. Because I had to cut ties with someone I believed and believe has serious transphobic beliefs and behaviours. It's right in the statement I made. Couldn't do that without losing his husband too. So I pulled the plug.
And they have lied. And lied and lied and lied about my intentions, beliefs and statements there, even after my lawyer sent them multiple letters explaining, in detail, why they were wrong and defamatory in their claims. (They doxed those letters, complete with my lawyer's phone number).
There are numerous additional lies, but the fact that the boy who cried wolf won't own a single one means this violation of JADE is probably a waste of time. This is my last attempt to appeal to goodness in him. Stop lying.
I get that he does not give a shit about me. But for himself, stop lying.
"That I lied about him when I shuttered a Kickstarter project in 2024."
She did! More than once! The most black-and-white lie is at 5:02(archive) where she states:
... I insisted that this person commit to a mutually agreed upon concrete plan going forward to address their unacceptable lack of impulse control and other issues that led to this reckless and potentially dangerous behavior so something like this never happened again. This person would not comply with this process ...
In fact, it’s one of the very first things I objected to, as you can see in my BlueSky thread on 2024-10-24 20:40:27.841 (full thread has 14 posts 697 words 1 link).
This was also posted on 2025-10-31 19:00:00 GMT to my website under a post titled October 24, 2024 at 2:39 PM.
... Most of what she says in this video about me is not accurate. It does not reflect the larger reality. Opposite to what she said, I actively tried to "comply" with the proposed process. ...
Now, you’ll notice the date. This is 19 days after the Cancellation Video. This is important.
Liana Kerzner likes to attempt to divest herself of any responsibility for the gross lack of professionalism found within the timespan of the Cancellation Video, starting with the fact that she makes doubly sure you know a PR professional looked it over.
Considering how incredibly inappropriate it was, and by his output on the Kickstarter, I’m assuming it was Ed the Sock for the time being (but I don’t really know). I actually pointed this out on my BlueSky (the post is currently missing, as the import wasn’t perfect).
But, if that doesn’t work because, well, she still had to have the mind to read it out loud like an idiot, then, *we* “jumped up and down shouting ‘It’s us! It’s us!'” which is how she describes this non-event, which, as she also puts it, is nonsensical since she doesn’t understand why anyone *wants* to do that except to attention seek for being bad… isn’t it convenient for her claims of seeking attentionthat we allegedly did (see above screenshot)?
Liana Kerzner went so far as to have her lawyer at the time, Mark Bourrie, write,
... You both then identified yourselves online and began posting defamatory statements about Liana on your various social media accounts.
As I wrote in another post titled And Then There’s This, on March 25, 2026,
(Click To Expand) A Very Large Excerpt from And Then There’s This that, TL;DR I show that Kiwi Farmers cornholierthanthou and Shaneequa (Giancarlo Vanzzini) identified us from Liana’s cancellation announcement inferentially (that’s not something the speaker does, by the way, that’s something the audience does, so, take notes Dr. Mark Bourrie, ’cause you seem to not understand this), then @MoviePira_te (also Vanzzini) and @TransTruthTeller on Twitter, all within 2 days of the announcement. It was only after 19 days that I realized Liana wasn’t going to be honest about things and I started speaking, having been identified publicly elsewhere.
Cornholierthanthou is a very interesting Kiwi Farmer that has an extraordinary knowledge of Liana’s past, conflicts, antagonists, and their material, all while her and Shaneequa, I’m guessing, couldn’t get a *public* thread on Liana started… for some reason… despite having plenty of knowledge, obviously.
It seems like she’s not notable enough for anyone to fully commit to caring, but, boy does Corhholierthanthou sure commit to caring!
Now, *I* suggested to Liana that Cornholierthanthou was most likely Emily Schooley, given the name, the humor, and the way she talks. That’s why Liana Kerzner jumped to post that idea and conclusion to Twitter, as her own. However, that’s something I’ve never fully committed to, unlike Giancarlo, which I’m certain about, and so is Liana, after confirming it with a Kiwi Farmer (Giancarlo) in order to know it’s true.
[…]
I didn’t need to do this. She insists to her followers I did, assuming she knows what I know. She doesn’t and I didn’t.
She also defended Giancarlo, a Kiwi Farmer, against my “doxxing” of him (linking his online “identities” to his real-life public social profiles) as if it’s some objective unquestionable moral truth.
It isn’t. I believe abusers, especially ones that have been abusing me and my husband for a long time, and especially abusers who support or are ambivalent to doxxing as it “socially corrects” and provides a needed social mechanism, somehow, are fair game.
It is absolutely fair for me to treat other people the exact same way they treat me, as I see fit to do so. Liana would agree, if it wasn’t her. I know she would because she has.
[…]
I believe, to the best of my knowledge, that people are supposed to assume Cornholierthanthou is Emily Schooley, and all her alleged “alts,” who all somehow, magically, write in the same “histrionic” cartoonishly narcissistic way even though Emily doesn’t write like that consistently (unlike Michael), and has always denied it. I think this because that’s what I thought, and, unlike Giancarlo, where I showed her a picture of a guy (I later matched up) holding a paper that said, “Sorry, I’m not Derricknotafish” or some such (it’s around here somewhere) she said, “That could be photoshopped,” and then later insisted I needed to confirm with him (how?)… Liana jumped on the opportunity to pin Cornholierthanthou onto “Stalker-chan” pretty quickly after I suggested it.
Did she confirm that one with Emily too?
Cornholierthanthou isn’t the only one to confirm it’s me the next day… look who ALSO showed up to offer further clarification:
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Anyways… there’s more!
Look who also talked about the situation, and fingered me… *ugh.*
Weird.
@LianaDoesntKare also, by the way, immediately picked up the “pedophile” story as well on Twitter, and was running around spewing it all over Twitter as well, as soon as the rest of Kiwi Farms, including Joshua Moon, imagined me saying it.
So, Cornholierthanthou on October 5th, one day after the Cancellation Announcement: It’s Asher.
@LianaDoesntKare Trans Truth Teller, on October 5th, one day after the Cancellation Announcement: Uh oh, sounds like things are mighty rough for Liana’s furry henchmen these days…
Shaneequa (Giancarlo Vanzzini) on October 6th, two days after the Cancellation Announcement: It’s Asher.
Me, 19 days later, about, after realizing that Liana’s not going to not talk about it, inaccurately to boot:
Why on Earth would Liana, with her strict integrity, and journalistic ethics, remember it wrong?
Why, indeed.
…
Suffice to say, I DID NOT INSERT MYSELF. I wrote this then too, repeatedly. I was ALREADY known. My husband and I were already determined, by the ‘random’ public, *as it appears,* miraculously, to be the ones talked about the very next day.
We didn’t say it.
I also never mentioned Kiwi Farms, yes “Kiwi Farms,” until AFTER our friendship ended, and I never posted on there, despite ALL the things they were saying, until AFTER we weren’t “friends” anymore. And I made 3 posts in defense, and was summarily banned for being, as Joshua Moon clearly makes the erroneous claim with no evidence other than his imagination, a “pedophile.”
…
I waited to see if it would just blow over and Liana wouldn’t talk about it, or at least, not talk about it inaccurately.
She didn’t. She talked about it inaccurately for the next sixteen months, with the story getting more and more and more deranged, inaccurate, and now even criminal over things that objectively. did. not. occur.
Liana Kerzner lies to her audience, to her friends, to me, to my husband, to everyone. SHE may be the actual mythomaniac, who knows, but I can say that right? That’s appropriate in a “safe” space right?
What Liana Kerzner doesn’t tell you WILL HURT YOU.
I’ve got more… like, have you ever wondered why Aileyn and Liana et al couldn’t get the graphics down from the Tumblr/Medium of TransTruthTeller? Or, how, after two takedowns, an image from my site finally had staying power on “Jen’s” Tumblr, and then, after two weeks of this, when it was finally stable and it was clear I wouldn’t pursue it, Liana suddenly announces how “someone sent” her that post, specifically, and she could then tell we were working together, somehow, even though “Jen” hates me, bans me, and tries to go against my wishes with my name and content?
Or, she did, until, like Kiwi Farms, Giancarlo, and Ellronn, they stopped naming me and started ignoring me despite every reason not to.
Ever wonder that?
I have.
*whew* OMG, okay, so here’s where I, in fact, attempted to comply with “this process.” By the way, me posting this is considered “doxxing” by Liana, of either a “very ugly fight” that’s embarrassing because she was super ugly (it was allegedly a trauma response, until it wasn’t, much like how the cancellation was about delays, or an untenable relationship, or transphobia and now aligns with what I’ve said all along), OR a secretive confidential business discussion over… her moving her hosting. Which, apparently, turns into “fights” so often in the IT world that it’s considered professional… *shakes head* no, bad dog!
To save you the trouble of having to scroll through *that* giant monstrosity as well, I’ll excerpt the parts that are relevant to this discussion:
Asher Wolfstein: In my opinion, this equally applies to you about me. To back off I will tell you that I've removed myself from almost every potentially dysfunctional interaction right now, and I'm committed to that and to acting in a functional manner. To do that I will attend DBT [ED: Liana knew I had been dragging my feet on this] and continue to work with my therapist. I have no desire to continue a conversation that is volatile if you don't, and honestly I've become incredibly uncomfortable. So, I'll think about things you've said (which I always do) and come back at a later time. — 5:36 PM ✓✓
Like I said, bullshit or not, I want to “fucking” learn. I want to answer all the questions. I want to address all the things, and indeed I do want to be corrected no matter how much it may hurt. However off I may be, I hope this shows that. But, maybe it doesn’t. If that’s true, I’d like to know why. That’s the only way I can improve because I can infer a great deal, but I can’t read minds.
“My BPD was right,” is extremely extremely troubling. It’s antisocial. It is the worst thing I could’ve said because, no matter how I meant it, it shows that I do not appreciate the nature of Borderline. It’s never right because it’s a disorder. That’s why I’ve ended up sequestered away in hospitals and considered a danger to society. Me communicating that I think it’s ever right is very very scary. And I’ve internalized that because you’re not the first person to quote it, and I’m almost never quoted; I’m too wordy. That quote, on its own, scares me. Borderline in any form is never right. I commit to never acting like it is, justifying it in any way, or using it as a justification ever again.
As I said, I really really should have said something, anything, before fucking off for three weeks. But I didn’t. It doesn’t matter why I didn’t. I didn’t and it caused so much grief, and I should have already known that enough to not do it but my head has been stuck so far up my sphincter pitying myself and telling myself it’s okay to be disturbed. I commit to not ever doing that again.
And I commit to being me and not just my father’s son, with a healthy self worth that is beneficial to everyone. I don’t want or need to starve myself to death when I’m 61. That sucks for everyone.
...
...
We needed to get a plan. A real plan. So what happened never happens again.
Even Maus wrote about it this very black-and-white clear lie:
I need to remind you that one of the demonstrable lies that Kerzner has told about this exchange is that Asher refused to comply with an action plan for change. This is the point in the conversation where he put that forth, and Kerzner stomped all over it. Not only has Liana Kerzner lied about Asher’s unwillingness to comply, she has also lied in portraying Asher as abusive and lacking in empathy throughout this exchange.
So, to recap, Liana claims, right out of the gate, "4) That I lied about him when I shuttered a Kickstarter project in 2024. Utterly false"
To which I’ve pointed out that, in the game’s Cancellation Announcement she said, "... I insisted that this person commit to a mutually agreed upon concrete plan going forward to address their unacceptable lack of impulse control and other issues that led to this reckless and potentially dangerous behavior so something like this never happened again. This person would not comply with this process ..."
And then, barring other objections that I also dealt with as an aside, provided where I did, in fact, attempt to comply, and, she shot me down! "... I'm committed to that and to acting in a functional manner. To do that I will attend DBT and continue to work with my therapist. ..." To which Liana replied, "Blah blah blah" without even a minute going by.
By the way, I attended DBT anyway, because my mental health isn’t about Liana no matter how much she desperately wants to place herself in the middle of it, and, by the way again, I’m attending group therapy, again.
I then try again and, unsurprisingly, at least to me, I become more abstract since the *beginning* of my plan, the DBT, was a specific detail and she was offended by that, I guess, or something… I mean? And so I wrote, "I ... want to be corrected no matter how much it may hurt. ... I commit to never acting like [Borderline is right], justifying it in any way, or using it as a justification ever again. ... I commit to not ever [fucking off for three weeks without saying something] again. ... I commit to being me and not just my father’s son, with a healthy self worth that is beneficial to everyone."
This was me attempting to begin forming “a mutually agreed upon concrete plan.” Thing is, for it to be mutual, that means that Liana would have input, and so, here I am, offering up something for her to have input on. And does she?
No.
And do I think that’s normal?
No!
She writes, "We needed to get a plan. A real plan. So what happened never happens again." which I took as a big ol’ fat dismissal and conclusion. There would never be any plan, and now, looking back, I understand that there was never any hope for a plan. And how do I know this? Well…
FOR THE RECORD: If it seems like I’m laser-focusing in really super tight on a tiny little detail almost out of the blue just so Liana can have lied about something, and that it’s a ‘weak’ defense against her major point, well, you have Liana Kerzner to blame for that. As well, you aren’t paying attention to the dates. I wrote "... Most of what she says in this video about me is not accurate. It does not reflect the larger reality. Opposite to what she said, I actively tried to "comply" with the proposed process. ..."19 days after the Cancellation Video.
That means that this is actually NOT out of the blue, and NOT some tiny niggling detail I pulled out of my ass just for this purpose. It is one of numerous issues *I’ve been talking about for 18 goddamn months.*
If it seemed like that to you, it’s because Liana Kerzner has convinced you that I have said things I haven’t, that I’ve held positions I haven’t, that I have grievances I don’t have, and that I’m likely to do something as silly as pick some random little detail no one cares about because I’m desperate and incompetent, like Liana does when she’s desperate and incompetent.
You have Liana Kerzner to blame for this, not me.
This is a Day 19 grievance stated 18 months ago, and then repeated, ad nauseum, until now.
We’re only TWO SENTENCES IN!
Don’t worry, the rest should go much faster. This was a deep dive into how credible Liana is in just two sentences, which it showed that she’s not credible at all.
if there was a lie here, it came from his husband, who did work on the game, & blamed him for repeatedly missing deadlines the husband had set himself. The husband sent me hours of recordings of "ragers" as he called them - recordings of the boy who cried wolf verbally abusing and screaming. At the time I thought this was done at his consent. I later realized that was not true. He had been secretly recorded. Still, the claims I made were ones I believed to be factual.
He and his husband insist that I have blamed them for all the delays. This is not and was never true. n the original post offering backers refunds, I clearly said these were only SOME of the delays. I took responsibility for failures in leadership and letting things go on too long.
I want to very quickly point one thing out that is of utmost importance: she writes that the boy who crief wolf (who is that?) “verbally [abused] and [screamed]” at his partner presumably (though it sounds like I just did it ambiently… which, if you’ve been following along, is entirely possible in Lianaland, as me posting into a void of no audience is somehow *still* harassing her.) In essence, she says I verbally abused my partner, being Maus, when that requires for Maus to state that himself. And he may have stated that to Kerzner at the time, because she catalogued it as verbal abuse for him, most likely, in her dizzying array of offense classification. Remember, this is a woman who watches her moderator Aileyn, and crew, brainstorm how what I’m writing is “hate speech” without batting an eye. The fact is, Maus decides whether he was verbally abused or not, and he has publicly decided that he was not. Kerzner cannot state this with any semblance of integrity.
As well, it does not matter if what Liana said about the situation was what she believed to be factual or not, as the grievance isn’t even about the veracity of the claims on that end. My grievance has never been about whether she portrayed my mental health struggle accurately. It’s always been about the fact that she portrayed them at all! And the history of Liana Kerzner’s posts is a testament to this:
Anyway, these demonstrate that she is at least somewhat aware that my grievance is more about the inclusion of the information with the statement rather than the accuracy of the portrayal, and yet, she ‘insists’ that her belief they were true absolves her… but it’s not about what she believed to be true, it’s about the fact she said it at all… so why fall back to framing it this way? Again?
I have no idea what the consensual nature of the recordings has to do with anything… except I do.
It’s not relevant to the issue at hand, but it’s a set up for the reader to go, “Ewww…” at the behavior. And yes, Liana is correct that they were not consensual at the time. When I discovered this had occurred, which wasn’t too long after, I was angry, yes, but I was also understanding, since I understood Liana to have become someone Maus could talk to about his difficulties in dealing with my mental health condition.
I did tell him that no one was to ever hear me in that state again because it was my most vulnerable of vulnerable states and one that others will consistently fail to understand. In perfect demonstration, Liana Kerzner vehemently denies that being angry is “vulnerable” at all, and rebukes the entire concept sans training, license, background, or education… So… who cares what she thinks?
Apparently a lot of people!
I also told him that he should delete those recordings immediately since, and I quote myself, “That’s not a good idea.” Liana later portrayed the whole thing to her Discord as something really off about everything, as if Maus was *expecting* her to listen to them for support, or something.
What she doesn’t portray, every single time she brings this up, which this has to be like, the third or fourth time, is that she also sent recordings of her husband “raging” to Maus as well.
Neither of us has any idea whether these were consensually recorded either, but, I find it difficult to believe that Steven, having thanked her for not revealing his *mismanaged* mental health struggles during the course of development (I shit you not), would ever consent to something so stupid.
So, now you can go “Ewww…” about Liana as well.
I’ll wait.
I have not heard these recordings, because, well, they’re private and insignificant to me, and so, why cross a boundary for no reason even if the guy thinks I’m shit? That’s more than I can say for Liana Kerzner. And she’s a peer counselor!
The notion that we "insist that [Liana] blamed [us] for all the delays" is weird, but it’s typical Liana-speak. Any assertion, any mention, any depiction, any recollection, any proposal or suspicion, etc. = insistence. I’ve lost track of how many things I’ve personally “insisted” that I never actually insisted upon. Liana has a grab bag of go-to words to describe the most innocuous of interpersonal statements, all of which are incendiary. She’s a fire starter! A wicked fire starter!
It’s not *that* weird, however, when you consider that the fact she’s dancing around is that Maus finally stated, upon publishing *his* side of the project’s development (which, you’d think he’d be “allowed” to do, but, nope, only Kerzner once again!), that the significant delays on his end were actually due to other, more pressing concerns, such as his employment status, as I don’t currently work due to disability.
And more than that, he’s stated that not all of the project’s delays rested squarely on his shoulders. Indeed, he goes on to state that significant delays, right up to the demo crunch, were due to Liana’s inability to write, which, she often blamed Steven’s “ragers” for as well.
It makes sense that she’s so focused on these “ragers” because they would be talked about *the most* since they were symptoms that kept reoccurring at the time. The employment status only need be mentioned a few times to remain relevant, but venting after a “very ugly fight” is an endless treasure.
But… wait. What did I just say about Steven Joel Kerzner?
Agh, well, *I* don’t have to say anything. He can say it himself:
At the time in question, I was suffering my own mental health challenge in the form of a deep depression that medication wasn’t managing effectively. As a result, I made mistakes at various times. Paying for something from the business account was one of those mistakes.
Liana didn’t share the specific details of my error because she would not disclose my personal mental health challenges. I am not ashamed of having had mental health challenges, but that is something for me to disclose. Instead of throwing me under the bus, like you have been demanding, Liana took it on the chin until you hounded her enough for me to make a public statement about my medical history. Is this something you are proud of?
Let me hyperfocus for a moment: “a deep depression that medication wasn’t managing effectively,” that caused Steven to make “mistakes at various times.” And one of those mistakes directly involved the project, as he paid “for something from the business account,” and he says it was “one of those mistakes,” not me.
He says that Liana would not disclose his personal mental health challenges because that’s “something for [him] to disclose.” He says that had she chosen to disclose them anyway, that it would be Liana “throwing [him] under the bus.”
But, instead of doing that, as apparently everyone has been demanding (except, how did they demand something they weren’t aware of, since Liana chose not to disclose it? Again, Liana speak; request for clarification = demanding bloodlust), she “took it on the chin” until everyone “hounded her enough” for him to make a “public statement” about something no one knew about.
And everyone’s supposed to be ashamed of themselves for demanding something they didn’t even know existed, since this was ground-fucking-breaking news to everyone, which was that Steven disclose his “medical history” because they knew, somehow, that it was relevant before he disclosed it to them.
The Kerzner’s are so fucking desperate to be victims of something, and shame everyone for ‘making’ them victims, that your head spins just considering it, which is the point.
But mine does not.
How the fuck do you demand something you don’t know exists?
You don’t.
No backer ever demanded that anyone be “thrown under the bus,” mostly because they have no idea who might be thrown under the bus. And yet, according to how Steven talks about his situation within the project, that’s what Liana did to me.
I was in a deep depression that medication wasn’t managing effectively, and I made some mistakes at various times (one of which was writing those 200 or so words, but not the way I handled Poppy’s manipulative rhetoric). Liana then decided to not take it on the chin without anyone hounding her, and proceeded to make a public statement that involved disclosing specific personal mental health challenges I had not previously disclosed, essentially my medical history, which, if she had done that to Steven would’ve been “throwing [him] under the bus,” and so, according to Steven, she threw me under the bus.
There ya have it folks.
And no, she did not make clear that these were “some of the delays,” whether she said those words or not. And how can I say that so confidently? Well, how else do you explain this exchange?
(Click to enlarge) It’s hard to read, so here’s what it says:
@matthewrowe9903 - 1 year ago (edited) Sorry to hear hope things pan out to a better place soon and respect for coming out publicly so rare in game dev its a shock, almost as much as its because of a trans/KIWI farms issue ? I have watched you for years but if you picked one side to 'be kind' then you should come clean over it and I as a TERF can choose to walk based on fact 2 thumbs up
In reply: @RedLianaK 1 year ago Just to be clear, it wasn't JUST that. It was also because deadlines were getting missed, delays were mounting, and I didn't think anything was going to change.
But thank you for appreciating the transparency, especially since we don't agree on that issue.
Wait wait wait… this says way more than that. And really, it shows that, at the time, the delays were *the* major issue. She says she “let things go on for too long,” which, that’s only a delay of delays… so…
This is very confusing isn’t it? Wasn’t this about how she didn’t clarify all the delays?
And, again, that’s the point.
Here, it shows Liana stating that the issue surrounding the cancellation wasn’t “JUST” about transphobic Kiwi Farming. She emphasizes that deadlines were getting missed, delays were mounting, and she “didn’t think anything was going to change.”
… we’ll return to this bizarre ball of crossed wires and move on to the next rebuttal for now.
I did not mention the husband doing no work on the project for six weeks straight while he did a singing contest. Strangely, during this time, the mentally ill spouse he was recording didn't cause catastrophic disruptions. Of course, once that was done, it was the mental illness again.
I let that six weeks happen. That was on me. I should have gotten tougher on him. My mistake.
This has to be the second dumbest thing ever written; not because it’s plain stupid, but because it’s so disastrously unaware of what it just revealed.
It’s this part in particular:
Strangely, during this time, the mentally ill spouse he was recording didn't cause catastrophic disruptions. Of course, once that was done, it was the mental illness again.
See… there’s been this thing that’s been haunting all of this that I’ve mentioned a couple times. You could say I “alluded to it in previous backer updates,” but that would actually be Liana saying that, in the Cancellation Video that made no reference to who she was talking about whatsoever, even inferentially! That was sarcasm.
And this… *thing* is that Liana Kerzner seems to occasionally reveal something quite, well, to use one of her adjectives when she said we were saying she was stalking herself (something she’s been mum’s the word on lately despite mounting evidence to perhaps suggest otherwise), horrid. And that, my friends, is that my entire mental health struggle is completely made up.
Mark Bourrie, in his second letter without prejudice to us, wrote:
Note that your statements on It’s Not Therapy do not make it easy to connect you to the anonymous individual whom Mrs. Kerzner referenced in her video (or subsequent remarks), as she has released numerous interviews with individuals with similar mental-health issues.
My client understands that you are an intelligent, experienced online broadcaster. She knows your participation in the episode of It’s Not Therapy was undertaken by you with full knowledge of the nature of the show, what the topic would be, that the show would be shared via radio and podcast and would remain posted online indefinitely. There exists no record of you objecting to the conduct of the podcast nor its distribution since it was posted well over a year ago. Therefore, any claims by you that you didn’t consent to the show’s recording and distribution are not supported by evidence.
If you are now stating that you made false statements about your condition on that podcast episode, please confirm this and we will remove the episode, as the makers of the podcast do not want to traffic in false information.
Quick little thing here, because it’s so ridiculous I laughed out loud when I read it. My statements on It’s Not Therapy actually make it EASIER to connect me to the “anonymous individual whom Mrs. Kerzner referenced in her video,” not harder. Since the Kerzners, and it seems their incompetent lawyer (in my layman’s opinion alone), are so used to fudging context, inventing it and dropping it at will, they don’t actually keep *track* of important context.
Liana has had many numerous interviews with individuals with similar mental-health issues, such as Poppy’s episode that highlighted how her Borderline symptoms, particularly the “favorite person” part was so infantilizing that she couldn’t give proper consent to sexual activity, which was something she only figured out after she was no longer incapacitated. That didn’t seem to occur until after she got up, dressed herself, and drove a great distance home as I understand it. Yeah, that one was real great at eliminating stigma.
But… how many interviewees are also the spouse of Merry(jest), who participated as a Bubble Head in an earlier broadcast workshop (something Liana herself vehemently pointed out as proof their entire relationship was a highly confidential business transaction), and who had also been a co-host on FUNetwork’s Broken Clock podcast before that?
She actually introduced me as Merry’s spouse, or at least that he “lives with” me, in the podcast, in case anyone is confused here.
And how many spouses of interviewees also happen to be involved with Liana on a long-running game development project?
I fear there’s only one that I know of.
In my purely layman’s opinion alone… Dr. Mark Bourrie is an overconfident white-knighting idiot that overestimates his ability to fool the plebes beneath him. I mean, I kinda had an idea on that from day one, after it took only one e-mail to send him off kilter to the point of misgendering me.
Considering I’m an uneducated country bumpkin with just a high school diploma from a resource-limited institution, a grown ass man that believes in the insane, and police-concerning, delusion that I’m an animal-person, and one who fails to use the term “social marker” correctly, I’d say that makes Dr. Mark Bourrie simply a pathetic blob of faux-progressive homophobia.
That was neither quick, nor little, so, moving on to the second and third paragraphs:
The second paragraph is pure filler nonsense. I never claimed I didn’t consent to the recording of the episode. Oh, no, I definitely consented to the recording of the episode, although, I was *not* aware that it would be up forever no matter what. If I was aware of that, I wouldn’t even attempt to have it removed, which makes a lot more sense doesn’t it? Why would someone with Borderline Personality Disorder attempt to do something he knows will never succeed? And that leads us to issue…
When I read the third paragraph of this quote I was utterly baffled for quite a long time. And the thing about me being baffled is that my brain works on figuring it out, whether I want it to or not. Why the fuck was Mark almost goading me, encouraging me to state that I had told a lie? Well, that’s obvious. But… my mind reeled… what could the lie possibly be?
And, we’re back to normal paragraphs.
It didn’t occur to me until much later, as evidenced in my now-deleted YouTube comments, but surviving LinkedIn article, that she very well might mean my entire mental health condition. I quote myself on October 25, 2025:
I’ve posted things like this before, requesting that my part in this episode be taken down. It is up to Liana Kerzner to respond with the compassion she promises and meet me at a middle ground, respect my boundaries as she would call them, and take it down. So far, she has put an enigmatic onus on me in a letter from her lawyer that I fail to comprehend.
Now, before I hone in on *one* singular interpretation of these weird sentences, which, I remind the reader, are "Strangely, during this time, the mentally ill spouse he was recording didn't cause catastrophic disruptions. Of course, once that was done, it was the mental illness again," I want to entertain other possibilities, because I know Liana will entertain anything she can possibly imagine if it’ll get her out of a rock and a hard place, being of course, her lies and reality.
It’s possible she’s stating that Maus is making up how difficult my mental health condition is for him, since she’d *never* ever claim I wasn’t mentally ill… that wouldn’t make *any* sense as she’s spent so many words pointing out how mentally ill I am and how much help I need that Maus is somehow not making sure I get despite not being my caretaker (my mother is) and… oh wait, no, that was all appropriate duty of care, not mental health stigma, hence the two anonymous welfare checks that freaked me out, because, how could she live with herse-
Yeah, spinning yet?
WIP – I have to fucking sleep!
But none of this was what I said caused me to ultimately pull the plug. It was that the boy who cried wolf was harassing people online and showed zero intentions of stopping. He did, and does, have a particular focus on trans people. During pride month, he's mocked two trans women content creators and he mocked my non binary identity, referring to me as a "fake man". He made vulgar comments about me maturbating as if I had a penis. No, I won't subject you to those
The game contained a prominent trans masc character from the web series the game was based on. I realized I could not release a game with multiple trans and non binary characters in it while the spouse of a key team member was harassing trans people. I was right: he's still harassing trans people.
THAT was why I pulled the plug. Not the delays. Because I had to cut ties with someone I believed and believe has serious transphobic beliefs and behaviours. It's right in the statement I made. Couldn't do that without losing his husband too. So I pulled the plug.
And they have lied. And lied and lied and lied about my intentions, beliefs and statements there, even after my lawyer sent them multiple letters explaining, in detail, why they were wrong and defamatory in their claims. (They doxed those letters, complete with my lawyer's phone number).
There are numerous additional lies, but the fact that the boy who cried wolf won't own a single one means this violation of JADE is probably a waste of time. This is my last attempt to appeal to goodness in him. Stop lying.
I get that he does not give a shit about me. But for himself, stop lying.
No, no, no, no, no.
I’m not going to let Liana do this shit again so brazenly close together in the same press-release Skeet thread without pointing out exactly where she gets everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, so profoundly wrong right in front of people without a good number of her audience even noticing.
Frankly, it’s pathological and sick, and it’s high fucking time someone points it out and shows everyone what’s happening without them appearing to notice… and if they do notice, well…
Liana states that, we have "lied about [her] intentions, beliefs and statements there, even after [her] lawyer sent [us] multiple letters explaining, in detail, why [we] were wrong and defamatory in [our] claims."
Excuse me?
Are you kidding me?
So, all I had to do all along was simply send her a letter containing every single post I made on my BlueSky account for 8 months, and all the posts beyond, condensed in Reader’s Digest fashion into one long running detailed explanation of my every intention, belief, statement, emotion, trigger, fear, and psychological mechanism this whole time, and all would have been completely resolved since she’d then know exactly why I did and do every minute action?
That all I had to do was encapsulate the broad brushstrokes of what I told her at PAX about my philosophy and my conflict resolution methods by writing them all out in obnoxiously described nauseating detail and sending them to her in a PDF over e-mail and all would’ve been sorted out?
…
But… I did do that.
I just didn’t do it through the mail. I didn’t do it in a private correspondence. And why would I?
Why would I ever do that when the first thing Liana did was to run to the camera, turn creepily towards the audience, and start explaining everything I might do in hackneyed caricaturesque detail the likes of which are in every self-help book on every middle-aged housewife’s shelf so they have somewhere to turn when they might suspect *they’re* the problem?
When she made my relationship with my husband public, without my consent, and told a story she herself said “wasn’t hers to tell,” again, without my consent, and then “threw me under the bus,” as Steven put it, again, without my consent?
Why would I ever trust this woman to speak to me directly ever again?
The answer is that there is no rational reason. It’s just something I wouldn’t do. It’s something I’ve refused to do. Talking to Liana Kerzner outside of public shit posting is one of the greatest dangers that faced me in the last 18 months of my life.
And to then speculate, or, I’m being too generous… STATE FOR A FACT that I’m instead sending her creepy and disturbed anonymous messages? That they’re believable only because they appear to “come from a place of guilt” which, even my therapist laughed?
WHY WOULD THAT EVER SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA!?
It wouldn’t.
…
The truth as I see it, is that there is no out. There is no exit. There’s no actual change that can happen until Liana Kerzner decides for herself that change can happen in her life.
Liana doesn’t "get" that I don’t "give a shit about [her]," anymore than *I* can state her "intentions, beliefs and statements" with any accuracy.
The fact she never considers this to be a two-way street is evidence of her pathological lack of a theory of mind.
But it *is* a two-way street. She is here, now, complaining that we didn’t take her lawyer’s word for everything she truly did mean… when, we DID take her lawyer’s word for it! It just doesn’t line up with reality. We’ve posted rebuttal after rebuttal of what her lawyer stated *for her* because it simply doesn’t line up with reality.
But that’s not the point. It’s not about it lining up with reality.
It’s about us simply accepting Liana’s reality: that she’s so pathetic and pitiful that she should be granted the grace of being left alone to scratch out a meager existence conning people in her little narcissistic games, and not doing so should make us feel so guilty that we wouldn’t be able to live with ourselves for being “terrible people.”
When you strip it all away, that’s kind of what’s implied in all these normative social expectations. Why kick the injured puppy, right? Except, it’s not a puppy. It’s a devourer of souls, if you will grant me some gamerdom, that’s injured.
I have spent 18 months laying out my side, my feelings, my intentions, my beliefs, and my statements in all their creative flair and glory; page after page after page, tens of thousands of words (perhaps even over a hundred thousand); all of it finely detailed, carefully constructed, and focused on every minute little point she ever makes when she decides to make one; and all she has done is ignore it (when will that list of Cseke mentions in the chat log ever be addressed?), distort it, rewrite it, and even make it up.
For 18 months.
I ended up in the freakin’ hospital, and half way through my hospitalization (where I had no phone), this is what she had to say:
She’s *still not convinced.*
Because she will never *be* convinced.
She will never *be,* plain and simple.
At least, not as long as she actually thinks we’re “jealous” of her.
I mean, if we want to talk attention seeking, what would you call someone who, if they didn’t jab at a profoundly mentally ill buzzsaw of lunacy every couple of posts, would be boring?
Someone who has made it their mission to be at the center of every little struggle and complaint I have (otherwise, why would they be lies)?
Someone who, every time I disconnect, goes batshit trying to reel me back in, at least, from my perspective?
Someone who would exploit my voice after shitting all over my entire existence because it could contribute to, well… Someone who puts “survivor” in their bio after 18 months of her doing this shit?
What would you call that person?
Liana Kerzner will never be convinced. She will never be satisfied. She will never resolve anything, ’cause that would shut off the supply of drama (which is why she has to, possibly, make sock puppets, or at least engage with them outside of her marriage).
This will never end.
I spent 18 fucking months explaining every single little detail of EVERYTHING and I get this stupid fucking thread of tired shit that will never change. She sends two near-nonsensical letters without prejudice and suddenly we’re horrible people hellbent on destroying the poor hapless exceptional woman because we won’t take her, or, really, her lawyer, at face fucking value.
That’s what she’s doing in the same thread.
She then goes on to claim that we “doxxed” those letters, complete with her lawyer’s phone number. Liana-speak once again! Posting something WE HAVE EVERY GODDAMN RIGHT TO POST IN AMERICA is apparently the horrible, no good, objectively evil “doxxing.”
Posting a lawyer’s public phone number and address, as printed on a professional communication (it wasn’t personal… or… was it?), and as listed in at least two places on the Internet at that time (as well as within the public directory of his profession), isn’t “doxxing.”
It was not published with any intent to harass, with any encouragement or incitement to harass, and with no ill-will. I didn’t even know it was of any sort of personal nature because I wrongly assumed Mark Bourrie had an actual office, and didn’t run whatever the fuck he runs out of his home.
I’m still not entirely sure what that address points to honestly.
I’ve never once said it would be appropriate for anyone to contact Mark about anything. I just know that I need not waste my time censoring something, and that it is a waste of my time by virtue of such, so I didn’t.
The truth of the matter is that I simply don’t care about Mark Bourrie’s professional privacy when it comes to me because he doesn’t even have the expectation, which is something he should know because he’s the fucking lawyer, not me!
And then… she can’t help herself.
"This is my last attempt to appeal to goodness in him. Stop lying. I get that he does not give a shit about me. But for himself, stop lying."
She appeals to the “goodness in [me],” which just makes me laugh, to be transparent.
One, I don’t think of “good” and “bad” in those terms, but two, every single thing I’ve done for the last 18 months has been because of the goodness in me as I see it. She doesn’t see it that way, and she’s not alone, and that’s fine. Opposite to what Bobby states, er, sorry, insists, because he’s drank the Kool-Aid, I was actually really happy finally to be the villain in Liana’s life because of what she does.
I’m not lying. I haven’t lied. Liana Kerzner has manufactured lies I’ve allegedly told *for herself,* and for her clueless preyed-upon audience. Every word I’ve written on this page so far is the truth. Every post I made in the last 18 months is the truth. It’s all incredibly consistent, because, well, it’s true.
But here… here it is. Despite her bitching and moaning about us “lying” about her “intentions, beliefs, and statements” she can’t stop herself from inserting herself into me once more. She says that she “gets” that I don’t give a shit about her. This is despite me posting, recently even, that I actually love people, and that includes Liana Kerzner.
The very boring, but also very damning truth is that *I* was the one who wrote, "I don't think Liana is a terrible person. Terrible people can't get better." while Liana was posting that I, or we, were “terrible people,” left and right until Maus pointed out she sounded exactly like Trump.
When it finally became time to be “the better person,” I was the only one that stood up and actually did it, because I love people, particularly mentally ill people, and that means I actually do give a shit about Liana Kerzner, as well as all her future victims if nothing changes. After all, we were friends for 5 years.
I wish we could be friends again, but, we can’t.
And if I were to put forth a theory? Well,perhapsthat’swhatthishasalwaysbeenabout…
Not really, that’s twisted Hallmark territory the likes of which someone like Liana spews and people eat it up.
This was always about how Liana uses people because she can’t use herself.
Liana Kerzner’s 18-Month Campaign Of Mental Health Stigma
#WhatIsGoodDysfunction #LianaGate
It sounds quite… drastic, doesn’t it?
I think so too, but I don’t know what other words to use that describe what’s happened without suffering inaccuracies and confusion. I’d like to use different terms, as a battery of anonymous accounts have cheapened exactly this kind of information over many years, conditioning the casual fan, or otherwise, to regard all such phrases as overdramatic, histrionic, and even batshit crazy; … which…
The list of anonymous accounts consists of several identities and theoretical identities, but all of them actively endeavor to remain anonymous as far as I can tell. However, this is tangential to this section and so, if you want to learn more about them, you can click on the link (in the works).
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Who Am I, A Victim?
Well… yes!
My name is Asher Kadar Wolfstein (born Asher Holley) and at the time of this writing (June 9, 2026) I am in the awkward position of being a male victim of a female predator:
I am a gay, trans-species (furry), disabled, and at-risk married man in his 40s living in Colorado, and I am being endangered and otherwise stalked by a former friend who currently resides in Canada. Unfortunately, I have reason to believe I’m also being endangered and otherwise stalked by another former friend who currently resides where I live: Fort Collins, Colorado.
I grant you that this combination is highly unusual: a gay couple in a 21 year marriage, one of which has severe Borderline Personality Disorder and is legally considered disabled and at-risk (vulnerable), a dysfunctional local man they ended a relationship with several years ago that has continued to interfere with their lives through possible stalking and triangulations with multiple parties, and a dysfunctional woman in another country that continues to use their media position to defame and endanger the vulnerable adult.
That is bizarrely specific and highly complex… I get it. But, that doesn’t mean it can’t exist, or that it’s inherently suspicious, it just means it’s unusual. Many people say that life is stranger than fiction, but then they come across something like this and suddenly, for whatever reason, it’s just too unbelievable. I mean…
I see it as a setup for a perfect storm, unfortunately. Three dysfunctional individuals (one of which is simply my laymen’s opinion), one with a documented severe personality disorder, two showing signs of such but different types, and one gay Ecuadorian opera singer performing virtual concerts as a purple Cheshire cat.
You now, everyday things.
The four main players are me (Asher), my husband (Maus), Kerzner (Liana), and, we firmly believe, Michael (Louis Michael Cseke).
Relentlessly Gradual Escalations
From my current vantage point, I firmly believe Michael and Kerzner are determined to continue escalating the situation.
Kerzner has already twice involved the local police via inappropriate welfare checks on me (according to the police) and has recently mentioned an ongoing, and in-depth-sounding, York Police investigation.
We believe Michael has waged a successful triangulation campaign consisting of terrorizing unfortunate women, but mainly Kerzner, by impersonating me in many messages.
And on our end, we are in the process of putting in place what we believe to be the deserved consequences of trying to fuck someone like me over (not a threat, or a crime; I’m talking about legal consequences both civil and potentially criminal).
Note, however, we don’t consider the last one (legal consequences) an escalation, as it’s an assertion of our rights, much like the York Police’s investigation being done on behalf of Kerzner.
All of us have rights, and we’ve always encourage everyone to exercise their rights as they see appropriate.
What we consider escalations are anonymous messages being taken as not anonymous, calling in potentially dangerous welfare checks because you’re not getting your way, physically stalking people and their cars, sending disturbing messages impersonating a vulnerable adult as a setup to be framed, and potentially basing an entire story-arc in someone’s media career on a self-manufactured caricature (not a parody) of a very real person who did not consent.
Liana Kerzner’s Escalating Abuse Of Asher Wolfstein: A Timeline Of Mental Health Stigma, Negligence, And Endangerment
It has taken 18 months of trying to get to a point where the grievances we had with Kerzner would either be addressed, which, some of them have been, sort of, kind of, but not really, and independent restitution would be made, or, at the minimum, the disservice Kerzner did to us could become objectively irrelevant through other means (like, ours).
We are now at a nascent point where our grievances with Kerzner are starting to be rendered irrelevant to us, but it’s still a ways off. The final step towards reaching irrelevancy for us is for reality to be the final arbiter and every consequence of injuring us is sorted out.
Hopefully, this will quickly communicate the bounds within which all of the information published here, particularly the objective harms of Liana Kerzner’s actions, are held. This is not a wannabe tabloid, and I’m not a muckraking troll.
If that’s what you’re looking for, and thus, that’s your preferred lens when reading my words… you can fuck off. This place isn’t for you. Everyone would do better if you just didn’t.
Detour Into The Writing Style Known As Asheresque
I am prone, very prone, to exactly this kind of out-of-place offensive-defense, or defensive-offense, when writing about a danger that I need to precisely delimit, always, for my, and other’s, safety. The trepidation others experience upon presentation could bother me a great deal in the past, and it still does sometimes today.
However, over the last 18 months, I’ve learned that sometimes, that’s not the better point.
And so, I understand if my words land as overly aggressive.
However, if you are willing to look over what I have to provide on this site about my very real situation, I promise you the solid reasons for why I do everything I do will become much more clear.
99% of my actions have a sequence of reasoning I can usually recall quite easily upon questioning, and a great deal is in reaction to things I know will affect that current communication, but others don’t.
There’s one thing I ask you to keep in mind: I am the king of context. Context is my life, and so, I set it up all. the. fucking. time. until my husband wants to smother me in my sleep, but he doesn’t… because he loves me.
I don’t want it to be, but this is the most important issue in my life right now: an 18-month ongoing campaign of mental health stigmatization, institutional intimidation, and narrative abuse.
Despite not being involved in the project, Kerzner’s actions essentially laid every project failure at the feet of my mental illness. My husband and I publicly objected to the statement’s selective facts, self-serving misrepresentations at our expense, and the falsehoods therein. We (mostly me at the beginning) requested clarification, retractions, and even restitution for months until we gave up trying.
However, we didn’t give up talking about it.
That is the source of everything that followed the cancellation announcement.
Rather than face our rightful dissatisfaction, Kerzner embarked on the aforementioned 18-month campaign of gradually escalating stigmatization, ostracism, narrative abuse, denials, lies, and manipulation instead. She has taken advantage of bad actors, impersonations, her radio show, and her deceptively influential online presence to finally bring three police officers to my door for an inappropriate welfare check. The officers agreed that it was beginning to look like harassment under the guise of concern. They later informed us that an officer called Kerzner and told her to stop.
To me, the true hideousness that’s there isn’t in the big picture, and I’ve observed it isn’t for others either.
On the surface, this looks ridiculous, and that’s because it is. I already agree with you. No matter their character, however, the events are real, and damaging, from the announcement onwards. Because of that very real danger, I persisted.
The viciousness is in the details, and details are difficult.
Presenting 18 months of them, or even 1 month, or, apparently, even 5 days, in a way that’s accessible is a highly challenging endeavor. I’ve spent upwards of a year attempting to upload accessible material that will allow others to easily understand our perspective.
I met with limited success as Kerzner’s behavior provided urgent distraction after urgent distraction. This behavior consists of presenting an extremely skewed and unrealistic reinterpretation of not just the events, but of us, and of me in particular.
Everything I communicate, including that I’m in danger, is run through Kerzner’s inner translation process and then broadcast as fact. It is my belief that she is seen as more believable, and is deferred to over me, because of a combination of legacy audience, higher profile, and because her erroneous reinterpretations are:
Shorter, but less accurate,
Easier to understand,
Psychodramatically satisfying, and,
Affirming of any present bias.
Her listeners are given the opportunity to be the ‘good crazies,’ of Kerzner’s branding and, in line with their potential “internalized stigma,” they leap at it.
All of this is in contrast to the highly verbose, boring, but accurate, reality I’ve dedicated my entire life to the art of ranting about.
There is much more to write and uncover, and I have done so for 18 months.
Unfortunately, as the situation progressed, much of it was erased from the internet. Stuff that was posted before the announcement disappeared by my hand out of fear and frustration.
In contrast, critical narratives after the announcement were erased from the Internet through moderation responding to bad actors, particularly Kerzner’s moderator Aileyn, of whom there is evidence of proactive efforts to transform any conflict, no matter how simple, into that always-dreaded near-criminal terms-of-service-violating “hate speech.”
Over the last 18 months, at the time of this writing, I wrote every point, every argument, every reaction, every thought, and every relevant detail that needed saying, ad nauseum, repeating them several times for many reasons.
I’ve also recorded everything that has been published, posted, and transmitted, by everyone involved, with timestamps.
From my perspective, not the one the Kerzner’s are apt to attempt enforcing on to me, the best thing I can do right now is present all of that writing combined with all of the data points so that others are able to see the progression of events from our perspective as well, and not just Kerzner’s.
My hope is that the reader, having access to the chronological sequence in detail, will be able to see why we believed what we said we believed (not what Kerzner decided for us), and the rationales behind our behavior sans Kerzner’s constantly unreliable reframing.
Due to the lengths Kerzner has now demonstrated she’s willing to go to, organizing these details into an accessible structure is paramount. Perusal of what’s there, as a matter of factual record, rather than primarily focusing on the alleged character of either party, is the key to understanding the frightful nature of the conflict.
In this endeavor I have set up a section of my website that provides a chronology of gradually escalating abuse towards myself at the hands of Liana Kerzner, famous counterpart to Ed the Sock (her husband, Steven Joel Kerzner‘s, character), former television host and games journalist, self-styled mental health advocate and journalist, long-time YouTuber, Twitch streamer, radio host, self-employed peer counselor, and former friend.
Or, according to Liana Kerzner, both on BlueSky and in her calls to the Fort Collins Police, a former customer of my company Original Pursuits LLC’s web-hosting services who allowed me to get a little too friendly.
A Reddit Thread On Monday, June 1, 2026 @ 2:53 PM MDT a post was made to r/youtubedrama titled Canadian YouTube personality Liana Kerzner calls local US police over web-hosting fallout dispute. The video Who Is Harassing Asher Wolfstein? was embedded, along with a brief description of the situation, referencing my husband’s site bossfightgame.com. An…
I am a victim with a grievance no matter what any one else, with the same qualifications as I, might ‘explain’ in my place. (Originally published on July 25, 2025)
This has ensconced my life for FOUR WHOLE DAYS, which, honestly, feels a bit excessive, but I wanted to be thorough. So now, I sincerely hope that you enjoy the orange marmalade of my labor, decanted and disposed of entirely at my discretion. I scraped it together off the adrenaline sidewalks and plated it exactly…
04-17-2026: I do not know what happened to the formatting of this, and other, posts. I will be remedying this as soon as I can properly get to it. I don’t want to get too distracted. This was posted on July 25, 2025 on an incarnation of one of my several blog manifestations this last almost year-and-a-half.…
In another post that was deleted (and so will now be an ‘archival post’ when re-published) I talked about projects I had worked on in late-2022. One of those is the now-infamous (a fact!) Small Cumfurts series by yours truly. Background This was originally published in 2025, but it was written in 2022 (not 2023…
In another post that was deleted (and so will now be an ‘archival post’ when re-published) I talked about projects I had worked on in late-2022. One of those is the now-infamous (a fact!) Small Cumfurts series by yours truly. Background This was originally published in 2025, but it was written in 2022 (not 2023…
In another post that was deleted (and so will now be an ‘archival post’ when re-published) I talked about projects I had worked on in late-2022. One of those is the now-infamous (a fact!) Small Cumfurts series by yours truly. Background This was originally published in 2025, but it was written in 2022 (not 2023…
In another post that was deleted (and so will now be an ‘archival post’ when re-published) I talked about projects I had worked on in late-2022. One of those is the now-infamous (a fact!) Small Cumfurts series by yours truly. You might be familiar with my more recent adult-oriented work titled Be Mindful Now (Ram…
There is still one thing that continues to make me just… wonder in amazement. My fictitious ability to be both super-genius and dumb as a fence post at the same time. How I’m able, fictitiously, to embody capability and ineptitude simultaneously. And, most strange to me, my fictitious penchant for being both comprehensively clear and…
A child needs love the most when they’re neck deep in their worst behavior. And while more love would be greatly appreciated, thankfully, I’m an adult.
My humesona is Karl. He works in accounting and accounts receivables. His hobbies include cheese making and Viking history. When I’m me, I’m ghastly shy… but when I’m Karl, everything just opens up and I can sleep with anybody! During the day, he spreadsheets. But after dark? He spreads sheets.
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redlianak 06/26/2026 8:21 AM
I forgot to turn comments off and sure enough...
Account was made June 4 too.
Embedded screenshot of a YouTube comment that reads-
@casterwolflena71805 - 39 minutes ago
A lifeline for whom, Liana? The people you've attacked and hurt with your words? Or is the lifeline only for you?
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kooubou 06/26/2026 8:31 AM
They really are involved in that identity aren't they? [ED: No shit sherlock] I knew who it was based on the name alone. [ED: no, you don't]
redlianak 06/26/2026 8:39 AM
I'm pretty sure that's Stalker Chan pretending to be wolf boy. But yes. Yes he is. [ED: Oh, NOW I am, rather than it being a knowing lie to hurt trans people.]
In reply to redlianak writing I forgot to turn comments off and sure enough... Account was made June 4 ...
hansoskar 06/26/2026 8:43 AM
and a name that makes sure everyone knows who it is lol.
In reply to hansoskar writing and a name that makes sure everyone knows who it is lol.
redlianak 06/26/2026 9:03 AM
Yeeeeah
In reply to redlianak writing Yeeeeah
hansoskar 06/26/2026 9:04 AM
it fits the "its me me me meeeeeee, she talkign [sic] about meeeeeeee" pattern lol](https://asherwolfstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/image-10.png)
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kooubou 06/26/2026 9:04 AM
Never seen a worse case of really messed up co dependency as those two. [ED: No, you haven't, because that's not me, so...]
ariwl1 06/26/2026 9:08 AM
Some of these people really do need mental health help. Otherwise I really don't get the mindset of following someone around that you profess to hate when you would never have to deal with them if you didn't push yourself.
My stepdad is a righteous jackass who I've had nothing to do with since he and my mom divorced. People have asked me if I ever look him up on Facebook or anything and the answer is "No. Why the f&^@ would I?"
redlianak 06/26/2026 10:11 AM
I'm not convinced they're sincere in their stated motivations. Just observing, there seems to be a lot of jealousy mixed with attention seeking. Which is getting into narcissistic supply territory, and it's almost impossible to properly grey rock on the internet, because if you're going to make every post bring, why bother?
bourbonbiscuit0860 06/26/2026 10:20 AM
evening all
5 Discord handwave reactions
redlianak 06/26/2026 11:16 AM
See THIS one seems to be more from the recent pack of flying monkeys. The vocabulary is more "fake rational" as opposed to the more feminized language of "attacked and hurt". Men don't perform taking exception to being attacked or hurt.
Embedded screenshot of a YouTube comment that reads-
@AtomicAerials - 26 minutes ago
@34:10 telling on yourself when you express not being able to trust someone who can accurately cite history and reality. What can't you trust them with, then, if not your own need for reality to be distorted? [ED: A high-quality question!]
I love how they accuse ME of diagnosing people. <laughing emoji>](https://asherwolfstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/image-11-526x1024.png)
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cornholierthanthou "I love lamp" kiwifarms.net Joined: Apr 10, 2024 posted on October 5, 2024
Quoting Big Beefus:
Tl;dr somebdy we've seen before in the thread (Asher) managed to be the crazier one in an interaction with Poppy. End quote.
Finally back from hell (hell is crossed out) travelling for work and I bring this wonderful cow crossing update.
Asher's slapfight earlier this month with Poppy has now resulted in Asher and his husband apparently falling out with Liana, to the point where Liana (begin strike through) could no longer exploit the furry husband for unpaid labour (end strike through) now has to entirely cancel the release of her upcoming game.
With it being widely known that (link) Liana and her husband Ed the Sock have scammed donors on multiple past crowdfunding campaigns (end link) at least she's performing the optics of pretending to offer refunds this time around. Time will tell how many people (italicized) actually (end italics) receive said refunds.
I wonder if Ol' Poppers knows or cares that she's caused more trauma and drama for Liana. [ED: Isn't that just... an interesting thing to say?]
Either way, it couldn't have happened to nicer people.
Embedded screenshot from Kickstarter-
Liana Kerzner (Creator)
October 5, 2024
Hi all,
We've received just over $3000 in refund requests and processed about $1800. The bank transfer from the production account to my paypal-connected one is taking longer than expected. It costs more to pull funds in the paypal wallet, and since I'm eating the paypal fees, I want to minimize them to make sure maximum funds go where they need to go.
I am also not deducting the 10% kickstarter fees deducted from the smaller donations. I may have to deduct that from the larger refunds to make sure there is enough money to refund everyone who wants one, but we're not close to that yet. However, if your donation was more than $500 and you requested a refund, there will be a delay accordingly.
If you do not have paypal, please check the email you provided for a message. I have reached out to everyone so far who requested alternate forms of payment.
Thank you to everyone who said they'd rather the money go to save Aileyn's aunt's house. They only have five months left to make the payment, so every little bit counts, and the family is very touched that strangers cared. It helps me feel a bit better that the spirit of the game is going to be paid forward in that way - collective imagination, collective support. We still have $3500 to go in that fundraiser, so every little bit counts.
that being said I understand financial realities are biting right now, hence offering refunds in the first place, beyond it being just the right thing to do. But to those who had the ability to support this, thank you. It's appreciated more than you know.
Liana
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Liana also posted a Youtube video (linked) about this where she avoids mentioning Asher by name and says she "can't say more" and "has to be very careful going forward" probably because there is some Lolcow and Lolcow LLP in the works.
Spoiler: Video Transcript](https://asherwolfstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/cornholier-than-thou.png)
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Shaneequa Joined Oct 11, 2020
Oct 6, 2024
Quoting Big Beefus:
I'm making it official canon, @cornholierthanthou killed Liana's game. End Quote.
Might as well publicly repost my thoughts on this from the private LianaK drama thread.
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Holy fuck.
Quoting from the cancellation statement: Numerous delays have mounted with this project. Some of those delays were because of the growing mental health instability of a spouse* of a member** of the team. This led to repeated missed deadlines, a great deal of distraction and crossed moral boundaries. End quote.
To clarify, the spouse here is referring to Asher while the official team member is/was Merryjest / Weatherwaxcat.
I supposed Asher's blackout was the drama that caused the missed deadlines and distractions [ED: Uh... no. For Internet sleuths, Kiwi Farmers really suck.] I thought it was odd how no one in Liana's circle stood up for Asher when he was up against Poppy in a BDD battle. [ED: Only Kiwi Farmers and Liana talk like this.] I know that a lot of Asher's blackout involved sites he hosted through his webhosting company that included auxiliary sites for Sparklemuffin, which I guess deepened the schism between him and Liana. [ED: Yeah... none of this makes any sense.]
Her giving people a 1 month deadline to request a refund before she uses the rest of the Sparklemuffin money for one of her mod's family's emergency fund feels sussy. Not in a "i bet she's keeping the money for herself" way, but in a "what if I miss the deadline and I also don't give a shit about your tranny mod" way.
Quoting from the cancellation statement: The delays were due to mental health issues in the home* and culminated with the spouse taking a very public shot on twitter at a trans woman** they knew was being harassed by Kiwi Farms using a narrative they knew was being circulated on the farms and that perpetuated both transphobia and mental health stigma. End quote.
* I think this is specifically to say that KF or certain other Twitter trolls fucking with Asher and his husband were not the cause of his breakdown. [ED: Correct. That means you, Giancarlo, were not the cause of my 'breakdown' which, wasn't one.]
** Poppy
Quoting from the cancellation statement: I* insisted that this person commit to a mutually agreed-upon, concrete plan going forward to address their unacceptable lack of impulse control and other issues that led to this reckless and potentially dangerous** behavior so something like this never happens again. End quote.
* First of all, [ED: This is one of less than a handful of times Giancarlo Vanzzini actually spits truth in this entire situation, sans the use of 'trannies'. I give credit where credit's due, though. He's still a rapey-ass troll that thinks he's entitled to weird relationships with you.] where do you get off insisting on this from someone who you're only related to by two degrees of separation? That's really fucking weird, imagine your boss talking to your wife like umm ur being mean to trannies on Facebook, please commit to a tranny-loving plan immediately. Like, ???
** Liana really lays out the oppression totem pole here. Sniping at gay BPD furry = a-ok! Sniping at BPD tranny = Literally attempted homicide. She tries to use the excuse that Poppy is being targeted by Kiwi Farms but Asher's been discussed here as well, and not nicely, either.
Quoting from the cancellation statement: This person would not comply with this process. The spouse, perhaps understandably, sided with them. [ED: Uh, no, Maus sided with humanity.] Not understandably, this team member accused me of deliberate cruelty. End quote.
TBH hanging Asher out to dry like that and demanding he capitulate is beyond the pale.](https://asherwolfstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/look-who-showed-up.jpg)
