It’s A Cult: I Never Answered To Liana Kerzner

It’s very strange to me that people simply accepted the idea that I somehow had to answer to Liana Kerzner regarding my behavior.

It’s very very clear, but I’ll say it one more time despite saying it over and over. Of course, since Liana Kerzner can’t get a single point right, being the main issue, since December 5, 2024, which is when I stated what the issue was as opposed to what she invented and has stuck with for 21 months, it doesn’t surprise me that no matter how many times I say something, it will always be contradicted by Liana Kerzner as she lies to her audience.

I never consented to have my public behavior in any area, let alone social media, to be monitored, mitigated, or managed by Liana Kerzner. This is not something I would ever agree to with a friend. The second I decide to do that, which would be an extraordinary circumstance, they are no longer my friend, they are someone I answer to.

I don’t “answer to” friends. My employer is not my friend. My supervisor is not my friend. Ever.

I never consented to any sort of transparency into my private life, which, *I* decide what parts of that I *disclose* (Liana strips people of agency there when she describes it as “violating their own privacy”) and *when* I disclose them. It *does not matter* if I’d said things earlier that might convey the impression that Liana made clear, inaccurately, by her own metric, and her own words, it “wasn’t [her] story to tell.”

But she did so anyway.

Pablo never consented to that level of transparency into his private life either by virtue of working on the project, which I was *never* part of, as determined by Liana Kerzner’s lawyer Mark Bourrie in black-and-white writing in a letter without prejudice. That’s why Liana had “alluded to it before,” but never outright explained it.

Speaking of that, contrary to what her lawyer Mark Bourrie wrote in his two letters without prejudice, Liana Kerzner *did* reference us by inference when she used the words, “alluded to before.” Alluded to what before? To the situation that involved a specific team member (truthfully the only team member)? Yeah. That’s “inferential referencing” or indexical targeting.

Liana Kerzner confronted neither Pablo or myself about our behavior as far as I know. For myself, she *never once* confronted me on anything I said. Kerzner will most likely always point to chats that *never occurred,* insinuating, or outright saying, that I “edited” them out. I didn’t, and I don’t. Why would I reveal so much about myself that doesn’t ingratiate me to anyone (when the transcripts were up, which they’re going back up) citing a dedication to the truth and then leave those out? The truth is, they just didn’t happen, and the last four months of our chats, which will be going up with a few parts missing, chiefly my sharing of my trauma (a mercy I can only hope individuals might graciously grant me, but I don’t hold my breath, it all seems to go to Liana), it becomes quite clear that the opposite occurred: Liana Kerzner was quite encouraging and quite seemingly content with my online activities, including gathering data and writing lengthy defenses.

Liana Kerzner never told us what she was going to do beyond cancelling the game. We never *did not* believe her, meaning we very much believed her when she said what she was going to do. That information didn’t include the contents of the statement which neither Maus or I would have ever approved or consented to, because it was inaccurate, not because it was embarrassing.

Liana Kerzner states she did us a favor, or thought she was doing us a favor, by not revealing the “whole story” when I have asked repeatedly that she reveal the whole story and that all of her “protection” and “running interference” actually hurts us, our reputation, and our position, and to stop. She has revealed more information, but the majority of it is extremely biased by either omission or distortion (something I attempt to not engage in, citing all the facts, which simply fall outside of Kerzner’s favor), or simply false. For example, in all her “telling of the whole story” and maximum “transparency,” which she shone on my private life without my consent, she never once mentioned the issue with her husband and the money, and when it came to light her husband thanked her for not sharing his mental health struggles, and yet, the cancellation statement revolves entirely around my private mental health struggles, allegedly, and my alleged “unacceptable lack of impulse control.” I’d call accessing $3,000 inappropriately a pretty big lack of impulse control, personally, but, of course, being a “terrible person” I don’t “get to” make those kinds of judgments. In Liana’s world, it appears that only trans people, like Naomi Paul Poru, can make those kinds of judgments, primarily about “terrible people” like me.

And speaking of that. Liana Kerzner lies to her audience when she states, without any hedging, that we “hate being called terrible people.” She is contradicting my position I keep stating. And the *only* reason I keep stating it is because she keeps contradicting it, not because I need to repeat a lie to myself until it’s true. She knows I will deny until the end of my days, and so this is by design in an effort to make it look like I’m insecure. The reality is, she contradicts me all the time, and in one documented instance, even within 24 hours of me saying something. She almost never qualifies the statement as her belief or opinion, as a speculation into my psychology like I might do, and instead simply states it as if the passive-aggressive caricatured inner-workings of my psyche she’s conjured up in her troll-like psychoanalysis is merely an accepted fact.

No medical professional I’ve seen and explained this to, with all the facts (that both favor and disfavor me) sees it as an accepted fact. Back in actual reality, where people have boundaries and they know where they end and others begin, every medical professional I’ve talked to, and I talk to a lot, have been *appalled* and highly concerned about Liana Kerzner’s behavior, her peer counseling business, and her radio show.

The facts are that Liana Kerzner:

• Violated my boundaries (and rights) by forcefully imposing a “transparency” onto me I *never* consented to.
• Lied about me repeatedly, such as saying I wouldn’t comply with her highly inappropriate demands, despite never agreeing to be accountable to her about *anything.*
  • That I’m lying to myself and exist as a miserable, transphobic, misogynist, “unaccountable” asshole (to who? her?) that thinks self-esteem/worth doesn’t exist (I don’t think this, I simply think it’s not “inherent”) and constantly loathes himself which is why I have to attack others. Uh… that’s a *lot* of assumptions, or, sorry, “structural analysis.”
  • That I wrote a clickbaity blog post centered entirely around my childhood sexual trauma that she described as “oversold” and ridiculed on her Discord server, only briefly apologizing more than a year later for using additional details to “defend” herself and me (which makes *no* sense according to the data). While I wrote 70 words that were a mistake because they didn’t come across how I had hoped, which I accept, I did not write this post, and it remains a purely Kiwi Farms fantasy. Those 70 words did not include the information Liana Kerzner later spread, and that’s all we’ve ever accused her of, not of starting a rumor that I’m a pedophile (which is weird that she’d take that on, since that was Kiwi Farms).
  • That I have a special hatred of trans people, particularly trans women, as evidenced by my online behavior and “vitriol,” which is a subjective judgment, particularly the passages she’s chosen. I’m a contentious person, and when I’m arguing/fighting/debating/criticizing people I can be very harsh (as you hopefully can tell). However, this is applied equally to everybody, including my classmate’s own parents on Facebook (I have the data that will eventually go up). There is no in-group or out-group with me, as “I don’t do groups.” The one unequal aspect is that I treat femme-presenting individuals with less harsh fervor than I do masc-presenting individuals. Essentially, for guys, I go *a lot* harder, and the data supports this. I discuss IDEAS and CONDUCT (like Liana tries to claim, and does so poorly) and don’t care much about people’s identities beyond whether they’re a bigot/troll/nazi/etc.
  • That I revealed who I was “the next day” on Twitter (regarding the cancellation announcement) and so any connection to me and my “bad behavior” that was “alluded to” (that’s inferential reference) is all on me. This has been shown to be entirely false at least twice now.
  • That I “see myself in what she says.” This is also false. I’ve repeatedly stated that I see myself *in the setup,* as in the indexical targeting, but then instantly see a distorted, if not completely off, description that’s clearly intended to evoke references of me in her audience. Again, this has been empirically proven. I often times would preface any comment I made about such instances with, “She must not be talking about me…” and then would say, “But I know her audience is *supposed* to think of me.” And, well, I was right.
  • That I was part of the development of BOSSFIGHT: Song of Sparklemuffin by virtue of her constantly saying “they” when describing the development process, as if Maus *and I* decided things. We did not. I had no direct, or even really indirect, influence on the project. Her lawyer, Mark Bourrie, agrees, as he says the cancellation announcement couldn’t “fuck me over,” since I didn’t participate in its development or was a stakeholder.” If I did *actually* possess direct influence, I would have so concerned about the delays that I would’ve accelerated development into “crunch time” because it was so far behind. I expressed this much to my husband *multiple times.* You can find all of Liana’s misrepresentations, distortions, and lies at https://bossfightgame.com/
  • That I “took a very public shot” at a trans woman on Twitter that was transphobic and employed a Kiwi Farms narrative. This is untrue on many levels. As for the transphobia, there isn’t much point arguing about it because Liana and Jessica (the trans woman) can both believe it was transphobic, which, okay, and there’s nothing I can do about that. I don’t believe it was transphobic and neither do the many trans women Maus and I know that have looked at the exchange. Their entire reasoning hinges on *one* word: “manipulative.” Not only is that transphobic, but it also constitutes the entirety of the Kiwi Farms narrative. This is ludicrous, since, besides being *one word* I also provided and referenced by virtue of noting my “BPD was right,” multiple specific instances where I believed Jessica was being manipulative (which was a horrible phrase, but I was *mimicking* Jessica, who, incidentally, chastised my language later despite using it herself) all *outside* of the fact that she allegedly set a “clear boundary” (with the word “uncomfortable”), and then was berating me, by violating her own boundary and coming back, for *not holding HER boundary* for her. My crime was that I didn’t take on the guilty role and kowtow to such passive-aggressive and, frankly, abusive bullshit. Nothing in that exchange constituted a “shot” or a “Kiwi Farms narrative” and looked like *every other heated encounter I’ve ever had online with anyone who said something I didn’t agree with.* The data supports this interpretation far more than Liana’s “trust me brah.”
  • That I delayed the development of Sparklemuffin. My husband Maus blows that notion out of the water in his exposing document with tons of evidence https://bossfightgame.com/ On that site, which Kerzner describes as a “doxx site,” he outlines 11 of Kerzner’s claims about development, and systematically shows how each one is either false, highly misleading, or a selective distortion, by, more than once, taking responsibility for his side of the delays; something Kerzner claims neither of us ever do.
  • In the cancellation announcement itself, Kerzner claims the last encounter was a “very ugly fight,” which, she also later expanded into a “business discussion” about services that somehow, red flag here, “turned into a fight.” No, that doesn’t happen, not with hosting services. There’s no reason to fight with a customer about hosting services, like, ever. I’d rather issue a refund than fight, which I eventually did against policy! Besides describing it as abusive and lacking empathy on my part, as well as falsely suggesting our entire relationship was this nonsensical protracted confrontationally abusive thing on more than one occasion, she cited that I “refused to comply,” which is *really* red flag wording. This is false. I tried to comply, more than once, but the first time I put forth even the *beginning* of a plan she ‘shot it down’ with “blah blah blah” and then tried to frame me as being equally aggressive. Only in her own passive-aggressive guilt-laden mind. Incidentally, the “very ugly fight” consisted of me attempting my best to accommodate Kerzner’s alleged trauma-response (which I thought I could see, but it turns out that was just an excuse because that’s how the Kerzner’s seem to see mental illness: as an excuse) while she jabbed at the memory of my dead-by-suicide father twice, and then used it once again to reinforce what she was saying by putting her words in his mouth, a man she never met. And the lack of empathy consisted of me saying “Do you want a reward” when I was *mimicking Kerzner’s own logic back to her* which is my go-to technique for dealing with *abusive* communication, meaning I have a *long* history of this, and the data shows it.
  • That I repeatedly lied about lots of things, but which are all inventions within the mind of Liana Kerzner, because apparently she cannot read.
    • That I said she was going to make me hurt other people, which I didn’t, but that’s what she professed fear of to the Fort Collins Police (while also discussing harassment charges she didn’t bring because she couldn’t stay anonymous) despite a 2-hour livestream where I explain the entire quoted thread in detail where I specifically, *SPECIFICALLY,* say that she’s not “making me” *do* anything. This was *after* she screencapped the *end* of the thread so she could *MOCK* my claims that she was psychologically torturing me (something she recently claimed for herself), and *AFTER* she attempted to publicly blackmail me (by her own metrics) to which I said, “No.” (Which, incidentally, I’ve never made an offer like that, especially not to her lawyer, which she, of course, says I have, which, is, of course, another lie) She’s *so concerned* about me and my posting online, but doesn’t take the care to watch the 2-hour livestream from the previous night (timestamped) before calling the police, a SECOND time.
    • That I “lied” that we didn’t have a business relationship. It’s not *MY* responsibility that she doesn’t read what I write carefully. I said that we never had a formal business discussion in our Telegram exchanges, *not* that I didn’t have a limited business relationship with Kerzner. This is a go-to of hers, to manufacture “lies” that never occurred. When I then spoke like, well, like I *had* a limited business relationship with Kerzner, because I never denied it, suddenly we were *finally* forced to tell the truth, she made us! Uh… no. It’s all laid out in the “very public” statement that was published, and is still up, at https://originalpursuitsllc.com/
    • That Maus would accidentally reveal his sock puppets. No, these are alternative accounts, and there was never any pretense that they weren’t Maus. I have no actively interacting alternative accounts whatsoever. There was never any trickery that they weren’t Maus, so, no, the only “accidental reveal” is once again solely in Kerzner’s desperate imagination.
  • And, most importantly, and lastly (for now), Liana Kerzner lies that we have been sending her awful harassing messages and, most recently, leaving nazi comments on her videos. These are both unequivocally false. I have not commented on a single video under @redlianak since the cancellation announcement. And the only reason I have to comment on anything is so that *people will see it* and since no nazi comment will be seen (besides simply being vile and repulsive) there’s no reason for me to make one. However this one might seem innocuous Internet “drama” except for one little part Kerzner has *feigned ignorance* over: the existence of my own style of “stalker” Louis Michael Cseke, who even now I *suspect* of unleashing DDOS-like crawlers onto my site using a potentially-criminal botnet.
    • The thing about Louis Michael Cseke and the danger he poses to me is that I *told* Liana Kerzner about this man multiple times over the course of 4-5 years. That’s partially WHY the Telegram exchange went up (and will go up again). I previously told Liana I was afraid of Louis Michael Cseke, someone I knew in real life and who lived near me, multiple times:
      
      From This Really, Really Needs To Stop As It’s Further Endangering Me,
      
      Once on April 21, 2019;
      
      Once in 2020;
      
      Three times in 2021 on January 2, April 30, and July 2;
      
      Eight times in 2023 on April 13, 14, 15, 16, 19, 24, 28, May 18, and July 24;
      
      And once, as is so far published, in 2024 on May 5; And four more times not yet published on June 14, 22, July 12, and 13.
      
      These *used* to link to my Telegram exchange upload, and in the original post, they still do. It is not currently “up” but I’m working on restoring it. As well, the images in the above linked post are not loading. I have *mountains* of information I have to sift through, and have been struggling for months to get it all in line. It is something I’m still working on. However, I can quote:
      
      She feigned ignorance, in my opinion, to her Discord server about it, stating, “I don’t understand why they don’t get the hell off kiwi farms. Apparently there’s a second guy now. “Mario”. That’s in the 56 minute video. How I was supposed to know this, no idea.“

This is far, far, FAR more evidence, and concrete factual information than Kerzner has *ever* provided when she “talks about the issues” that are obviously meant to be about us and others. She says *all of it* is a lie. ALL OF IT.

In reply to,

Liana Kerzner wrote,

Given all that I’ve put out here, does that seem remotely realistic to you?

It does to her fans and followers!

And that should really give you pause as to whether Liana Kerzner is worth considering, what you believe her influence is, and whether she’s a healthy influence , or a danger, on/to vulnerable and at-risk individuals like myself and many others.

It’s quite a privilege to be able to say, “Who cares about nobody?” when you are secure and balanced in your life, but I’m not asking you to care about Liana Kerzner. IF you are asking this, you are interpreting it from a point of view where I’m supposed to be… I don’t know, catering to your entertainment and time? Wow. And IF you think it’s as easy for me, after she’s *trashed* any semblance of my previously rational and honest reputation among strange folk (I call them Others), the very folk I would find to be my peers, to just go, “Who cares about this nobody?” then, wow, because *that’s still you,* not me.

What I’m asking, and have *always* been asking, like anyone who’s a victim of abuse, is to raise awareness for other future victims (’cause there will be future victims, I guarantee it), AND to cast some *care* towards ME. Yes, I’m asking for attention, because this kind of treatment and my situation *deserves* attention due to how unjust and unfair it is. That that might be seen as a *bad* thing is what ABUSERS convince you so that you don’t speak up or care.

I have piles of evidence. Is it presented real great right now? No. No it isn’t. I’m doing my best. This is the kind of thing abusers rely on, the fact that “strange” people like me who have ADHD and other mental issues can’t get their shit together to present a solid “looks good” understandable and sympathetic case. And so, they convince others, and others listen for some strange reason, to disregard anything that isn’t easily digestible or “looks good” (like not being so sympathetic in attitude or rhetoric, such as myself) because… somehow the victim is responsible for being a victim?

LISTEN TO YOURSELVES!

Does the person who, when left to his own devices, and lacking in any substantial higher education, can write this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and this. And is clearly capable of doing these after showing this. Has worked as a salaried professional programmer, as a technology paraprofessional for a year in a public elementary school, as an insurance agent… does this seem like the irrational, impulsive, misogynist, transphobic, cryptoconservative, self-loathing, flailing, and above all lying person Liana Kerzner says I am?

When just writing this, by troll’s/abuser’s logic that everyone seemingly gloms onto at the drop of a hat, apparently is *proof* that I *really* deep down *am* all those things otherwise why *deny* it so *vehemently*?

What is *WRONG* with you people?

The fact that *ANYONE* would automatically assume that *I* appropriately answer to my *friend* Liana Kerzner because… WHY!? She has a radio show? She gives advice? She beats you down until she can didactically tell you how to live? Of course she does! SHE’S AN ABUSER!

I don’t answer to ANYONE. Not even Maus!

If you think this, YOU ARE BRAINWASHED!

And nobody comments on these posts. People posted, but now they don’t because she gets them banned, actually. Outside of the people Liana describes as “not adult enough” as a PEER COUNSELOR, who was pissed, by the way, that a professional told her she wasn’t qualified to work with autistic individuals…

WHAT’S WRONG WITH EVERYONE!? WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM!?

YOU ALL AGREE WITH THE FUCKING TROLLS!?!??

YOU ALL AGREE WITH SOMEONE WITH THE PSYCHOANALYSIS SKILLS OF A TROLL WHO SAYS, “TRUST ME BRAH, I’M THE VICTIM!”

Why? Because I don’t appeal to you? Because I’m not nice enough? Because I’m not entertaining? Because *she isn’t worth anyone’s time including HER VICTIMS!?!?*

LISTEN TO YOUR FUCKING SELVES!

I can’t. I just can’t. I can’t write anymore on this right now.