… Aren’t They?

[Someone continue...] you and then advice isn't for beta males, so long sheep boy it's not the same as the attacks you have gotten Liana but justifying the unjustifiable through a tribal world view

Liana (Monster Adopter) 01/17/2025 at 8:53 AM MST
The thing is? The, gruesome twosome are leaving out that I apologized for misreading the situation with Asher. I apologized to him. I just refused to accept that I was not being deliberately cruel, and they kept telling me I was.
I also needed more than "I'll stay off the internet" because the problem was that he has no impulse control.
They're treating these as unpardonable sins, and I have no idea how someone looks at that and says it makes sense.
And Song just refused to tell the truth when she was given the opportunity. These are all people that just wouldn't stop doing things that were causing problems when asked.
But they are 100% certain that I am some horrible monster and they did nothing wrong.
Every one of them has flat out said "I did nothing wrong"
I can always find SOMETHING I did wrong in a tense situation. They're also accusing me of never admitting that I'm wrong, which there was evidence to contradict, but they deleted the telegram chats.
I just have no idea how someone does this stuff. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
I'm a bad person for not having th emoney to support another adult for over 5 months, plus moving expenses. I got publicly blasted for THAT and accused of enabling domestic violence. How does someone DO that? And why am I the abnormal one for not being able to fathom that.

Liana (Monster Adopter) 01/17/2025 at 12:12PM MST
And now I am doing that thing where I know I have something at 3:45. And I can't do

Liana (Monster Adopter) 08/27/2025 at 7:41 AM MDT
It ALWAYS looks worse when it leaks too.

What someone leaked was me saying Asher, who used to host my website, cut off my access to my email because he was angry.

Someone from kiwi farms went that to Asher and he exploded... even though it was true he lost his shit because I was saying so

meowth900 08/27/2025 at 7:42 AM MDT
Yeh that is annoying

Liana (Monster Adopter) 08/27/2025 at 7:42 AM MDT
They went through and name searched him. Found 4 references to him months apart.

Of course they didn't include the dates, so in his messed up brain, it looked like they all happened at once

[In response to Christie Brown Yup!!! I've been reading this entire convo, and I'm just...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 01/19/2025 at 6:19 AM MST
Oh there's even a direct tie in!
Guess who the gruesome twosome harassed?
Yeah. Exact quote: my BPD was right. You're manipulative.
So one person with BPD was calling a trans woman with BP...
farms mainpulative, and he knew how bad it was because he...
dragged into the thread about P&Z by the troll who then got...
gruesome twosome had their latest explosion.
Not using thei rnames so no one can name search.

Bobby Calloway 10/15/2025 at 6:14 PM MDT
And this is a different lawyer to the one handling the gruesome twosome?

Kooubou 01/17/2025 at 12:54 PM MST
How did you even get involved with the gruesome twosome? They seem well adjusted.

Liana (Monster Adopter) 01/17/2025 at 12:55 PM MST
They weren't always this bad.

I really should have taken their social media activity seriously though. I'm reassessing my opinions on free speech thanks to this

Bobby Calloway 01/18/2025 at 5:58 PM MST
Oh the Gruesome Twosome's emotional damages owings is reaching the millions now

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 8:12 AM MDT
Hi all, just making this announcement because there have been some, ahem, fireworks on X. Lawyers letters went out to a few parties who continue to make defamatory statements about me. In response to that, they decided to dox my lawyer on X and blame kiwi farms (which they are account holders on) while continuing to repeat various false or misleading claims about me. If you see any of that stuff, I ask that you don't engage. They're trying to claim I'm stalking THEM, including through third parties. So I'd appreciate not giving them more ammunition.

This reaction isn't unexpected but it is draining. I decided to take action after that threat I got referencing Charlie Kirk. I believe in people's right to speak, even when they're trying to ruin me, but making outright threats is over the line.

Thanks for your understanding in advance.

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 8:45 AM MDT
How can they get away with doxing a lawyer? Is that them stitching themselves up?

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) Hi all, just making this announcement because there have bee...]
Ricky 09/28/2025 at 8:54 AM MDT
Free speech is one thing, threats of someones life, implied or otherwise, is another

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) Hi all, just making...]
thewickedmerman 09/28/2025 at 9:04 AM MDT
I thought Kiwi Farms was shut down and now it's back up again? Why does that not surprise me?

[In response to Bobby Calloway How can they get away with doxing a lawyer? Is that them stitching...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 9:11 AM MDT
It's possible that it's technically not illegal because it's listed on some public registry. But it still violates ToS of most social media companies

[In response to thewickedmerman I thought Kiwi Farms was shut down and now it's back up again? ...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 9:12 AM MDT
They keep finding new hosting companies. The ridiculous thing is that a big reason I got space from these people in the first place is that they were on kiwi farms. And not just lurking. Posting stuff. At...

[In response to Bobby Calloway How can they get away with doxing a lawyer? Is that them stitching...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 9:11 AM MDT
It's possible that it's technically not illegal because it's listed on some public registry. But it still violates ToS of most social media companies

[In response to thewickedmerman I thought Kiwi Farms was shut down and now it's back up again?...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 9:14 AM MDT
They keep finding new hosting companies. The ridiculous things is that a big reason I got space from these people in the first place is that they were on kiwi farms. And not just lurking. Posting stuff. At first I thought they were just being paranoid and trying to see what people were saying about them. But it was definitely more than that.

And now they're accusing me of "ignoring" a KFer who I actually confronted and threw out of this server. That was the reason we had to beef up screening. They flooded the server and started taking screen grabs. Like, it's a provably false statement. They don't learn

Kooubou 09/28/2025 at 9:14 AM MDT
They sound very charming.

thewickedmerman 09/28/2025 at 9:16 AM MDT
Sounds awful and I have my own experience being talked about on Kiwi Farms and it definitely sucked. I'm sorry you're going through all of this Liana,.

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) Hi all, just making this announcement because there have...]
Kearn 09/28/2025 at 9:18 AM MDT
I'm sorry your having to keep dealing with them.

Lewbear0341 09/28/2025 at 9:21 AM MDT
This is by Robusta Art
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[In response to thewickedmerman Sounds awful and I have my own experience being talked about...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 9:28 AM MDT
I've had to deal with kiwi farms on and off since gamergate. That's another weird claim they're making. That I'm saying they're the reason certain THINGS ended up on the farms in the first place. THAT is true.

The thing is, they don't provide a shred of evidence to any of their claims. It's just bluster. They produce things that don't claim what they think it does, then repeat repeat repeat then when they get into trouble, blame kiwi farms.

So why is one of them ON kiwi farms?

[Liana continued...] trouble, blame kiwi farms.

So why is one of them ON kiwi farms?

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 10:41 AM MDT
Could they be sent to jail over this?

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 10:28 AM MDT
No it's civil defamation, not criminal. Unless they're, say, spreading rumors to get me physically harmed

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) Hi all, just making this announcement because there have...]
iamorange 09/28/2025 at 10:59 AM MDT
Ridiculous.
I never engage in this kind of drivel online. Threats and doxing never sit right with me. Keep doing what you can to protect yourself.
They'll get no engagement from me.

[In response to iamorange Ridiculous. I never engage in this kind of drivel online. Threats and doxing...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:00 AM MDT
Appreciate that. Granted making a 56 minute video on YouTube going "I'm not harassing her it's kiwi farms, by the way, by the way here's all the reasons she's bad" is unintentionally hilarious.

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:00 AM MDT
Jeez who on earth would watch something like that for that long?

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:02 AM MDT
The same kinda people who listen to 2 hour podcasts in the background

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:02 AM MDT
Do they keep refreshing it every few seconds to make the view count go up?

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:02 AM MDT
There are chapter markers 🤣

I think it's mainly an exercise in convincing themselves they've done nothing wrong, while continuing to do the wrong thing

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:04 AM MDT
At least when it comes to infamous internet figures like Chris Chan, at least with all the stuff that can be said about them there is an attempt at a tldr, 56 minutes on one person does sound wild. Like what do they actually say that fills up that time?

What amazing things did ya do that warrants so much length? lol

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:06 AM MDT
They keep playing internet sleuth on kiwifarmers. Part of the reason I got away from them is they were preparing to dox a guy with no actual confirmation the he was on the farms.

[Ricky continued...] What amazing things did ya do that warrants so much length? lol

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:06 AM MDT
They keep playing internet sleuth on kiwifarmers. Part of the rason I got away from them is they were preparing to dox a guy with no actual confirmation that he was on the farms.

One conversation with the guy in question, he admitted to it. But they didn't do that. They just wanted to put his personal information online, and this guy was a former client. THE ONE person I referred to someone else. That someone else was the guy making this video.

So he wanted to breach client confidentiality because of a beef

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:07 AM MDT
Thats a law break if I ever saw one

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:07 AM MDT
I'm still trying to figure out that chain of events

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:11 AM MDT
It's not TECHNICALLY because there's no guarantee of confidentiality like there is with a licensed therapist.

Okay chain of events.

I refer client.

Stuff goes down, client apparently hits on the husband of the guy I referred him to. It explodes on Twitter. I told former client it was not okay.

Former client is a KFer. He decides to make the person I referred him to and his husband miserable. They take the bait for months.

Fucktober happens. I cut ties.

A few months later, this conversation happens with the previously referred client.

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This was why suddenly shit went bananas and we had to beef up security and verification

(The messages are blocked because I've blocked the guy. And obviously I'm not going to share his screen name.)

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:13 AM MDT
-_-

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:13 AM MDT
-_-

Liana (Mosnter Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:13 AM MDT
But before he was blocked he did a name search on the server for the two people in question. Got a whopping 4 messages and sent it to them. They go completely banana splits. Don't realize that, gee, 4 references in 2-3 months really isn't that much

Ever since they've been paranoid that I'm talking about them. They make things I say in YouTube videos about them and insist that I have not sufficiently anonymized them. But they also take ever opportunity on X and bsky to say, "it's me! She's talking about me!"

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:13 AM MDT
One of the things that scares me is internet crazy's

especially since I run a community server with a bunch of decently known internet figures, and I'm like the smallest one there.

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:15 AM MDT
Obviously I'm leaving out details because, if they do still have someone spying here like they claim, hey look, I'm not posting anything that could link them to this stuff

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:15 AM MDT
Its bad enough I have former friends who seem to worry about me being the harassing type, because I picked the wrong bloody side.

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:15 AM MDT
I don't believe that because I'd imagine if they had something, they have so little impulse control they'd have put it somewhere by now

But, you know, just in case. There's no reason not to talk about it because I'm telling the truth. But it's not worth the headache

There's a bunch of stuff in the intervening time that I'm not totally aware of because I have them blocked, I don't have alts, and I only know what they're saying if someone sends it to me

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) I don't believe that because I'd imagine if they had something...]
Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:17 AM MDT
Anything you couldnt mince that is. Ya say something just short of confirming someone's bias and Zinger gotten!

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:17 AM MDT
But around the same time Charlie Kirk got shot and I got that threat, someone linked me to a blog the husband has. It's clearly him. And it's this lengthy thing, naming me, claiming wild things like I got him banned on bsky.

[Liana continued...] of because I have them blocked, I don't have alts, and I only know what they're saying if someone sends it to me

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) I don't believe that because I'd imagine if they had something...]
Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:17 AM MDT
Anything you couldnt mince that is. Ya say something just short of confirming someone's bias and Zinger gotten!

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:17 AM MDT
But around the same time Charlie Kirk got shot and I got that threat, someone linked me to a blog the husband has. It's clearly him. And it's this length thing, naming me, claiming wild things like I got him banned on bsky.

I have since discovered that personal conversations of mine to the husband ended up on stalker chan's ongoing tumblr blog. There's only ONE source that could come from, because it was a private telegram chat that they deleted on their side. So the screen grabs HAD to come from them.

So lawyers letters went out. They freaked out. They're doubling down

That's the timeline

basically, loosely

KroganCharr (Zeus Torm) 09/28/2025 at 11:19 AM MDT
oh ffs

meowth900 09/28/2025 at 11:10 AM MDT
That sucks. Sorry that you and husband are going through that.

Liana (Mosnter Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:22 AM MDT
I don't understand why they don't get the hell off kiwi farms.
Apparently there's a second guy now. "Mario". That's in the 56 minute video. How I was supposed to know this, no idea.

I have been getting some strange messages that don't pass the sniff test that I assumed were KF. But the screenshots they sent me were authentically from the people the messages claimed they were from

And now that this lengthy video exists it's uindeniable they're still spreading stuff that just isn't true. Like the claim I IGNORED a KFer. You see the screen shot I posted. I didn't ignore anything.

The implication is that I ignored transphobic conduct. Which just isn't true

And frankly? Publicly? The best thing is to ignore KF, because if they can make you wail every time they start shit, that only encourages them

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:24 AM MDT
Jesus

[Liana continued...] And frankly? Publicly? The best thing is to ignore KF, because if they can make you wail every time they start shit, that only encourages them

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:24 AM MDT
Jesus

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) I don't understand why they don't get the hell of kiwi farms...]
My main thing to ask is, how the HECK do you deal with that and still get on? I'm not even sure I could.

[In response Ricky My main thing to ask is, how the HECK do you deal with that and still get on?...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:27 AM MDT
I'm used to it. I fuck up a lot. Usually on the side of not giving out enough information. Even now I'm worried that I'm not including important details, but I want to say as little as possible

I never name them publicly. Even Stalker Chan has a nickname because, well, if she sees herself in the behaviour I describe, that's on her.

I do not know what possesses people to go "Oh that shitty behaviour? She's TOTALLY talking about me! Let's call attention to it!"

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:31 AM MDT
That makes sense

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/20-25 at 11:33 AM MDT
There's a certain amount of this that you're expected to take when you're in the public eye. But that threat? Nope. Over the line

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:37 AM MDT
I was recently in a vc with someone who vented about a former friend, who, did ill towards them. venting that they would travel (former friend is in Canada) to where they live, confront them and (and you fill in the blanks). But I know for a fact, having known this other guy was 'Charlie Kirk'd' they would be one of the first people crying with guilt over it, because of being a former friend of theirs.

It's one thing to have angry ventive intrusive thoughts, its another to willfully go through with them.

Or mean it.

So it takes a vast level of self delusion to say what they said to you so nonchalantly and be OK with it.

Liana (Mosnter Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:40 AM MDT
Yeah but telling them they're unwell is, according to them, "mental health stigma".

[Ricky continued…] So it takes a vast level of self delusion to say what they said to you so nonchalantly and be OK with it.

Liana (Mosnter Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:40 AM MDT
Yeah but telling them they're unwell is, according to them, "mental health stigma".

I wish I was kidding

Oh, and "punching down"

Ricky 09/28/025 at 11:41 AM MDT
That is something that someone who has unchecked mental health issues would say, its deflection.

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:42 AM MDT
Oh that's the core of the issue. Their inability to admit that their disorder is… a disorder.

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:43 AM MDT
But they own it enough to say you are stigmatising them

Just enough

Liana (Monster Adopter) 0928/2025 at 11:43 AM MDT
There are cluster b personality disorders at play here. Diagnosed one.

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:43 AM MDT
A perfect example of trying to have the cake and eat it too

[In response to Bobby Calloway A perfect example of trying to have the cake and eat it too…]
Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:43 AM MDT
Yes

meowth090 09/28/2025 at 11:44 AM MDT
Hope stuff gets better for you soon. I will endure fucktober 2 with you if needed. [???]⚡

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:44 AM MDT
That's been the problem the whole time. They wanted to behave badly, be defended, have my own reputation be damaged by association with them. When I wouldn't do it, they started punishing me

I gotta figure out what Fucktober 2: Tylenol Boogaloo is gonna be

We gotta do something

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:45 AM MDT
Tylenol Boogaloo XD

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:45 AM MDT
Maybe we should do shirts

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:45 AM MDT
Tell Zelda I'd like a spot on her dance card ❤️

meowth900 09/28/2025 at 11:45 AM MDT
Ed Sock shirts?

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:46 AM MDT
Well the mascot for October clearly needs to be tutu opossum

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:46 AM MDT
I  REAALLY REAALLLY want a shirt with Soloman saying "OUTRAGE!!"
the closest thing I got to that was making a render involving my OC that i lost.

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:46 AM MDT
[Possum_fix_1.png]

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:47 AM MDT
Whoever made that needs to be enshrined as an international treasure

[In response to Ricky I REAALLY REAALLLY want a shirt with Soloman saying "OUTRAGE!!" the closest...]
If there's enough interest we can make that happen

[In response to Bobby Calloway Whoever made that needs to be enshrined as an international treasure...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:47 AM MDT
Who else? Aileyn

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:47 AM MDT
I had a feeling 😄

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:47 AM MDT
If you ever plan to write arcs involving LB/BF as fanfics or short storybooks, I'll be the first to order/download them.

[In response to Ricky If you ever plan to write arcs involving LB/BF as fanfics or short storybooks,...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:48 AM MDT
Yeah I'm still recovering from that whole thing. The people I've been talking about here were involved in that going to shit too. I gotta be careful though because they keep saying I didn't anonymize the statement enough. I did as much as I could while still providing people with transparency.

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:49 AM MDT
Aw sorry about that ☹️

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 11:49 AM MDT
And then of course the next day they pulled a "It's me she's talking about me!" So I don't know why they claim to be upset about people...

[Liana continued...] people with transparency.

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:49 AM MDT
Aw sorry about that ☹️

Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/025 at 11:49 AM MDT
And then of course the next day they pulled a "It's me she's talking about me!" So I don't know why they claim to be upset about people knowing now. I told them I was going to make a statement telling people what happened

According to recent rantings, they didn't think I was serious until I did it. That's on them

And again, I didn't NAME anyone

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:51 AM MDT
So you told them you were going to do, they didn't say "don't do it" and then got annoyed when you did the thing you told them you were going to do?

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:52 AM MDT
Yeah I feel like they must have known but just twisted enough to still get mad

Bobby Calloway 09/28/2025 at 11:54 AM MDT
And the not thinking she was serious argument is bull, because anyone who knows LIana knows that she doesn't say things idly. If she tells you she will do something, she's going to do it

Ricky 09/28/2025 at 11:55 AM MDT
Me when I say I'm gonna do something, to be talked out of it because "it's not worth it".

Not gonna lie, to be fair to the peeps in question they were right, even if it took 6 months to see it all play out.

Sometimes there is a quieting strength in holding your tongue

[In respnose to Bobby Calloway I had a feeling 😄]
Aileyn (Vampy Hype Goblin) 09/28/2025 at 12:25 PM MDT
it was her birthday gift xD

meowth900 09/28/2025 at 12:26 PM MDT
Happy birthday

Aileyn (Vampy Hype Goblin) 09/28/2025 at 12:26 PM MDT
... back in February xD

meowth900 09/28/2025 at 12:26 PM MDT
https://tenor/view/kuzco-kronk-yzma-right-wink-gif-22358009

[In response to Bobby Calloway And the not thinking she was serious argument is complete bull, ...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 12:29 PM MDT
That's the thing. They should have known it wasn't a bluff or just something said in anger.

[In response to Bobby Calloway And the not thinking she was serious argument is complete bull, ...]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 12:29 PM MDT
That's the thing. They should have known it wasn't a bluff or just something said in anger.

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) Hi all, just making this announcement because there have...]
Hey, I'm sorry to hear about that, it sounds like a headache to say the least. And don't worry, they won't be getting any engagement from me, I'm hardly on social media these days, and I deleted my X account a long time ago.

I have no idea what you said about Charlie Kirk, and I didn't know you were threatened for it, but that's terrible. Making threats crosses a bright red line, and no one should have to experience that.

Cordonus (The 47th Doctor) 09/28/2025 at 4:09 PM MDT
I recently bought 51% of a vampire hunting company.
I'm now the main stake holder

Witch-Queen of Tsamra 09/28/2025 at 4:17 PM MDT
Crashes through the house, destroys a Vampire, and grabs a soda from the fridge "The only thing I could never stand about Santa Carla is all the damn vampires."

[In response to andrewgaus Hey, I'm sorry to hear about that, it sounds like a headache to say the...]
I didn't get threatened for any comments. I was told karma was coming for me like Charlie Kirk

[In response to Liana (Monster Adopter) I didn't get threatened for any comments. I was told karma...]
Ricky 09/28/2025 at 4:39 PM MDT
yeah thats just as foreboding.

[In response to Ricky yeah thats just as foreboding.]
Liana (Monster Adopter) 09/28/2025 at 4:39 PM MDT
ayep

Lewbear0341 09/29/2025 at 2:50 AM MDT
So I was able to get a coffee and bagel for under 10USD in an Airport.

[In response to Kearn For anyone using LinkedIn, they maybe using your user data for generative ai...]
A reminder about this. Steps to turn it off are here:
https://proton.me/blog/linkedin-ai-training

andrewgaus 09/29/2025 at 6:06 PM MDT
I am determined to learn digital sculpting, and today, my plan was to make significant progress on a blender sculpting course I'm working

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Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Gonna change my pinned tweet to something more general. Various individuals are making false online statements about me. They have become too numerous to address one by one. I have obtained a lawyer. Further responses will be done via the courts. Thank you for your understanding.

10:41 AM - Oct 4, 2025 - 3,649 Views

Liana Kernzer
@redlianak
A sample of the threats I get from stalkers promising me the Charlie Kirk treatment. This is why it's unwise to cheer on violence

[image]
Cope harder, fucknugget

Message

Your pathetic copium is hilarious, you withering saggy ass bitch. Cry harder about how you're "happy" being ugly, fat, and on the decline in money, looks, and Youtube views.

Your fake positivity fools nobody, btw. You have failed at so many things including failing to ruin the lives and reputations of the people you want to punish. Our mutual friends in your Discord community have shared some VERY enlightening screenshots, btw.

If you're afraid of karma returning all of the hate you've put out into the world... well, maybe you should be. Sometimes karma comes in bullets like it did for Charlie Kirk and sometimes it comes in other ways. You never know. :)

Kisses!

12:48 PM - Sep 19, 2025 - 942 Views

That John Anthony Wilcox Guy @JohnAWilcox - Sep 21, 2025
Disgusting & quite creepy.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 22, 2025
Yeah. It's wild what some people think is okay to say.

That John Anthony Wilcox Guy @JohnAWilcox - Sep 22, 2025
They sound like ridiculous 7 year olds.

Why.exe @katekora42 - Sep 19, 2025
Good night I'm so sorry. I know you're tough but that's awful. Sometimes I think social media was a mistake. At least back in the day with message boards, extreme views were sort of in their own containment zones. These people are sad.

Dr. Decepticon Boba Fett 👌 @xtreemmash... - Sep 19, 2025
I don't understand how people can so angry at someone just for being opposed to violence.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Dear "totally not stalkers"
Your 56 minute YouTube video abotu how it's not you, it's kiwi farms, is weak sauce since your social media is full of mentions about me and you took out a tab on your blog, that is hosted on your own hosting company, to talk shit.
Just stop lying.
6:28 AM - Sep 28, 2025 - 366 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Hey "totally not stalkers"...
Since you're trying to claim it wasn't you, it's kiwi farms, doxing the lawyer who sent you the papers is a dumb move.
You keep putting garbage about me on the internet, then playing the victim when kiwi farms, which you are on, spreads it.
6:40 AM - Sep 28, 2025 - 422 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 28, 2025
A big reason we are not friends anymore is because you wouldn't stop going on kiwi farms. Now you're trying to avoid responsibility for running your mouth on kiwi farms. It isn't plausible. I never name anyone, then you post saying "it's me she's talking about me!" Cut it out.

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Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 28, 2025
Trying to silence me isn't going to work. I'm allowed to talk about my own life. I have given people the dignity of not naming anyone and you keep stepping on that by seeing your own terrible behaviour in what I describe. Now you're showing everyone you can't take responsibility.

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the Eldritch prince @eldritch_prince - Sep 28, 2025
@redlianak seeing the drama.

Have some puppy pics. Her name is Jackie

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
It's always funny when people assume I'm talking about them when I don't name anyone, then they explode, name me a bunch of times, and people who see it can make up their own minds
6:46 AM - Sep 28, 2025 - 50 Views

Liana KErzner
@redlianak
The ironic thing about the latest explosion is that people are accusing me of mental health stigma... and then they go on to mock the fact that I have PTSD.
They claim I say I "overcame" it but that's fallacious. It's something you learn to manage so life is good again.
7:07 AM - Sep 28, 2025 - 373 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 28, 2025
The fact that they accuse me of something and then, in the next breath, do the exact same thing they accuse me of, is really telling. It just looks like people who can't admit they were wrong, so they're doubling down on cruelty.

the Eldritch prince @eldritch_prince - Sep 28, 2025
It's that or sodoku and they don't want to do the latter so it is double down until they no longer can

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
It's very tragic people who cannot admit they made serious mistakes. So they're trying to accuse me of everything that they themselves did
7:12 AM - Sep 28, 2025 - 63 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Claims have been made about me that I "ignored" an individual's transphobic behaviour who was a member of kiwi farms.

This is patently false. When I confronted the individual and they confirmed they were a kiwi farmer, I threw them out of my discord server.

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8:51 AM - Sep 28, 2025 - 473 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 28, 2025
This resulted in a bombardment of my server by numerous new accounts, and leaks of screen shots, distributed to third parties out of context to cause trouble. We have since significantly increased screening on the server, but obviously nothing is foolproof.

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Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 28, 2025
This person is now claiming that kiwi farms is to blame for a bunch of things, despite me warning them before I cut ties that being that close to kiwi farms risks exactly this sort of thing happens. If you're on the farms, you're agreeing to play by their rules.

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Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 28, 2025
I'm tired of this person naming and blaming me for things I di dnot say, things I had no part of, innocent actions that they insist are nefarious, and mere mistakes that they claim are deliberate lies.

I do not tolerate transphobia. This is why we're no longer friends.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Totally not stalker is still stalking my tweets.
So buddy, your husband sent me hours of recordings of you screaming and flinging verbal abuse at him, then deleted them all off of telegram to cover his tracks.
I don't think you're awful due to stigma. I heard what you're like.

@Zhuge Liang @thatblueelf - Sep 29, 2025
Really? I don't think you understand what is real anymore, Liana.

But what's real is this: you are a deeply unethical person. You have made your choice. You have harmed my husband, inflicted mental anguish and defamed him.

Shall you ask Mr. Bourrie about breach of privacy?

Zhuge Liang @thatblueelf - Sep 29, 2025
Releasing and alluding to personal details, real or invented, is nothing more than a distraction strategy. You refuse to own up to your own violations of confidence and privacy to clients and friends.
These are distractions.
They will not work anymore, Liana.

Zhuge Liang
@thatblueelf
@MarkBourrie I believe you should advice your client regarding the repercussions of the breach and invasion of privacy she has performed in her server since November, sharing personal and mental health history information. Continuing in this matter is ill-advised for her.
2:57 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 51 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Totally not stalker is still stalking my tweets, insisting I'm not providing details about the things I say.
Yet they keep attributing comments to them where I don't name them, and claim I'm defaming them, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT NAMED. Here's the thing...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
After the original statement I put out when I wrapped the game because this not-stalkers' husband told me that the numerous delays on the game were because he kept having "ragers" - including sending me recordings of HOURS of meltdowns, the guy took to social media...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
He flat out linked to the disclosure statement I made telling people what happened and IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS THE PERSON IN QUESTION. Now he's claiming I defamed him. It doesn't work that way. He chose to attention seek, now he's blaming me...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
These two are also blaming me for their continuted issues with kiwi farms. I cut ties with them in part bc he misreprsented how involed one of them was on KF. Furthermore, he was making paranoid accusations of people announcing "my BPD was right!" You're ____"...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
This dude went after MULTIPLE trans women. Who then encouraged their followers to report him to social media services. He then blamed me for getting suspended on Bluesky when far more plausible reasons were RIGHT THERE...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
He's also accusing me of "mental health stigma", claiming he has to talk incessantly about having BPD because of me. He talked incessantly about having BPD before this, and he doxed my lawyer to try to get me to destroy evidence that proves he's lying...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
This is a guy who refused to remove a line from his personal blog about sexually abusing another kid when he was a child, even after kiwi farms had a feeding frenzy about it. Again, he is blaming me for the stuff with KF, instead of taking responsibility.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
So because he keeps block evading my tweets, I'll tell him this: I will never speak to him again directly. But I do care about him as a person. He was given ECT despite that not being recommended for people with personality disorders. It caused memory loss. He behaved badly...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
It is totally unfair for him and his husband to expect me to continue to run interference for him, to suffer damage to my reputation while his unchecked mental illness leads to explosion after explosion online. "My BPD was right" should be a sign something is really wrong...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I did not cut ties because he has BPD. I cut ties because he was not doing the work to MANAGE his BPD. He was using it as an excuse to give into his delusions, paranoia, and rage. And he's blaming me for all of it, because that's part of the delusion...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I am ALLOWED to get distance from people who engage in self-destructive behaviour that also hurts other people. I am allowed to protect my reputation and my business endeavours. And I stand by telling people the primary reason I was wrapping up the game...

Liana Kernzer @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
He's claiming I'm engaging in "mental health stigma" because I apologized to a trans woman he harassed for his "buzzsaw of crazy." He flew into a rage because I told him his circular logic was "bullshit". He didn't speak to me for three weeks because HE made a mistake...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
When he got more enraged, he cut my connection to my enterprise email. He claimed he did that not as a web hosting provider, but as a personal action - as if that made it all better. I told people what had happened on my discord server because I needed help getting access back...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
A kiwi farmer screencapped that message, where I did name him because I was panicked and not thinking clearly, and sent it to him. So he's fine to take information from kiwi farms when it fuels his rage, but I'm a bad person for occasionally getting fooled by them...

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Of course telling the truth of my experiences is ABOUT HIM, and more fuel for his rage. When I don't want to be around his rage, that makes him rage too. And he does rage. I heard the recordings of him screaming, HOURS of recordings. Yes, I wanted away from that. Who wouldn't?

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Hope everyone is enjoying the show of me tweeting to an audience of one. Block evades can be entertaining!

The Rabbit - back in the frozen wastelands! [F0 9F 87 A8 F0 9F 87 A6]
@RabbitofHorror
Evades can certainly be entertaining but getting a stalker to rage without directly mentioning their name is more so 🤣

They often can't stand when you say things about them but don't directly engage with them 🤣
10:29 AM - Sep 30, 2025 - 18 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Also, dear Totally Not a Salker, you sent a message to my radio show's contact form that was identical to the one you sent my lawyer. So either you're hacked and your husband's job is at risk because he handles people's confidential information, or you're straight up lying.
3:44 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 310 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
To be clear, deat totally not a stalker... no, I am not saying you sent me hours of messages.
I am saying your husband sent me hours of recordings of you berating him and screaming at him.
Again I thought this was with your consent. Clearly it was not.
3:46 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 569 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
I mean, sure, totally not a stalker, maybe your husband lied to me about why he wasn't working on the game. Maybe he was actually just cybersexing those much younger Second Life furies he was paying attention to instead of you. But I repeated what HE told me, so stop blaming me.
3:50 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 322 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
I completely believe, totally not a stalker, that your husband lied to you, and that's why you're so confused. He lied to me too. And he continues to lie. When you weren't talking to me he told me that if you didn't make your apology to me good, he'd dump you at your mother's.
3:52 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 317 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Also, totally not a stalker, I didn't include all the times your husband claimed he couldn't work on my game, which was paid in advance for, because if he didn't work on a furry kink game you were suddently obsessed with making, you'd end up in the hospital again.
3:55 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 331 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Furthermore, totally not a stalker, the game demo your husband eventually produced - again, after been paid thousands in advance - was NOT my concept, nor based on the script I sent him. It was a love letter to his second life furry boyfriend, whom he made the central NPC.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Yes, totally not a stalker, I kept these details out of the statement I made when I pulled the plug, because I was thinking of your feelings and trying to spare you a modicum of dignity, because YIKES the full truth of what went down is SUPER embarassing.
3:58 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 290 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Furthermore, totally not a stalker, the reason I paid your husband thousands in advance for work he set his own deadline for and was still weks late (again, blaming you) was because the two of you are in constant financial holes. How DARE you accuse me of mental health stigma?

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I left out your husband's lateness on game milestones and the fact that he went rogue on content to protect his reputation in the industry, hoping you'd get well eventually and he could move on from this. But no, you two had to attack my reputation and tell lies about me...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Totally not a stalker, you couldn't even take that gift I gave you - giving a single reason for wrapping the project that allowed everyone to keep a shred of dignity and intact reputation. You had to make it into this year long thing that completely warped everything I did...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I was trying to protect the two of you from the consequences of your dysfunction, and you turned it into the conspiracy against you. I never announced the number of people who were working on the game. Backers didn't know it was you. YOU CALLED ATTENTION TO YOURSELF.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I never even used your husband's real name in the private conversations that were leaked to you, and yet the 2 of you still insist that my intent was to assassinate your characters. It's the opposite of true. I stayed away from friends in common and just wanted to be left alone.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I have let this nonsense run an entire year as you let screenshots of private conversation's fall into the hands of the very person you were threatening to publish a full takedown piece on, allegedly for my benefit. You believed she was a dangerous stalker then...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - sep 29, 2025
But when you got enraged at me because I told you I didn't consent to you using the tweets of mine that you'd amassed to do an online hit piece against her, your entire story changed. Now I was making it all up. You KNOW that's not true.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
The truth is that the only reason I tolerated your obsession with that, and went along with it for as long as I did, is I figured it would keep you busy so you'd stop screaming at your husband long enough for him to work on the game. It would be another unfinished thing.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
The fact that you referred to the tweets of mine that you collected as "your diary..." I quote "You demand I delete my own personal files off my own personal computer. 'You wrote about me in your diary!? You must burn it!''" Find any snigle one of your hinges, sir.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
If your husband lied to me, throwing you under the bus to cover up the fact that the real reason he wasn't working on the game is that he was yiffing with other men far too young for him is not on me. The mess of your personal life is not my concern...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak Sep 29, 2025
But I sat on this for nearly a YEAR while you continue to accuse me of attempting to assassinate your character. The opposite was true. I protected you even as you were cruel to me, because I know you're profoundly mentally ill.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
What the ECT did to you was not your fault. But you are so arrogantly certain, and so vindictive in your recent behaviour that I am DONE. The game demo that was produced didn't even have the MAIN CHARACTER OF THE GAME playable in it! That's how rogue your husband went.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
So benefit of the doubt. He lied to you. He lied to me. Great. Stop it now. If someone defamed you and enaged in mental health stigma, ti's the guy who claimed everything was your fault, not me.

Zhuge Liang
@thatblueelf
Here is a question to you, Liana:

If I can prove that you have told a massive lie, beyond a shadow of a doubt, will you actually acknowledge it, or will you make more excuses?
5:06 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 69 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
So you have a choice now, Totally Not A Stalker. You can do what you've always done, and call attention to yourself regarding an anonymous story that you see yourself in, or you can actually just stay quiet for a change, the way you're trying to silence me.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Recently you've assumed things were about you that weren't. Hell, you made a comment I made about an angry gaming mob's diarrhea of the keyboard about you. These things are not about you. Stop watching my damned content.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
There's no way you'll maek a defamation claim about the game stick, because you identified yourself in connection to my statement after I didn't. So there's no way to prove that you would have been recognized were it not for that. You made that choice. I tried to protect you.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
But you were so offended that I would DARE rpeeat the story I was told about you to people who had paid money because the had faith in me, and now I had to beg for mercy from because your husband took the money then didn't do the work.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
I couldn't get that money back, so if EVERYONE asked for a refund, I'd be out thousands. I had to throw myself on the mercy of the crowd while you cut off the web hosting services of your only customer - me - who paid for LIFETIME HOSTING.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
$400 US dollars, plus an additional monthly fee for a second site I didn't use, just to put more money into your household finances. You cut off my services with no notice, and yo did it out of spite. The amount I've found excuses to funnel to you two over the years...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
You'd get into trouble with taxes, or health care, or you overspent on a business start up that you then had a meltdown over because it wasn't an instant success... how DARE you accuse me of mental health stigma when I was cleaning up your mistakes again and again with money.

[In reply to Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025 $400 US dollars, plus an additional monthly fee for a second site...]

Zhuge Liang @thatblueelf - Sep 29, 2025
Your lifetime hosting was never suspended. Your free hosting, which we were keeping up at our expense as an act of friendship, was discontinuted. If you wish to prove that and pursue this professional defamation, we can prove it in court. The server logs do not lie.

Zhuge Liang
@thatblueelf
You can still log into your control panel. It has remained unchanged since October of last year.
4:35 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 35 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak Sep 29, 2025
But that's what you do, isn't it? When people don't give you what you want, you start pushing buttons, trying to hit them right where it hurts the most, then you go WAAAAAA I'M MENTALLY ILL when it blows up in your face. Well you don't get to set reality for everyone else.

Zhuge Liang
@thatblueelf
You have proven me right. You are deliberately cruel.
4:44 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 73 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Seriously what is the piont of blocks on this hellsite since the seriously bad people just evade them? It's apointless feature other than for bots
5:43 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 367 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
No totally not stalkers I'm not going to release any recordings. That's something you'd do but it's not me. It would be over the line. At least you admitted the recordings exist. You stopped lying about that.
8:11 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 363 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
Totally not stalkers, you've spent a lot of time complaining I didn't keep you anon enough, but that was a courtesy. It's only defamation if I say somthing that is not true. You keep naming me, and saying things that are provably false, which is why you have to talk to my lawyer

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
I didn't need to name you regarding your transphobic attacks. You did them in public, to multiple people, and multiple people called you on it. This si why we're no longer friends: you kept claiming I betrayed confidences when it was your own public behaviour people judged.
8:18 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 297 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
See this is the thing: totally not stalkers keep outing their alts because they have no impulse control. Note the bottom where they confirm the existence of the recordings I referenced. I tell the truth. They lie. The recordings were a lie they got caught in.

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Zhuge Liang
@thatblueelf
Opportunistic relationships can hardly be kept constant. The acquaintance of honorable people, even at a distance, continues unfading through the four seasons.
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Zhuge Liang @thatblueelf - 1h
What are you trying to distract from?

What don't you want them to see>?

I think I know, now. And I know you know.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
They keep getting caught saying things that aren't true, then getting caught telling more lies to try to cover up the last round of them. The smart thing to do now is to stop. But they keep blaming me in a series of provably false paranoid delusions.
8:25 PM - Sep 29, 2025 - 300 Views

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Zhuge Liang
@thatblueelf
Opportunistic relationships can hardly be kept constant. The acquaintance of honorable people, even at a distance, continues unfading through the four seasons.
Joined July 2025
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Zhuge Liang @thatblueelf- 1h
What are you trying to distract from?

What don't you want them to see?

I think I know, now. And I know you know.

Zhuge Liang @thatblueelf - 2h
Kerzner abused my confidentiality, my trust and my friendship, and has behaved in truly monstrous and horrible ways.
What will she do? Release the recording...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 29, 2025
It defies credulity, totally not stalkers, that you truly believe me to be cruel, and still thought I would meekly protect your lies after you made a 56 minute video about me AFTER getting a lawyers letter.
Your lying doesn't even make sense. I'm not cruel. You got caught. Stop.

The Rabbit - back in the frozen wastelands! (canada flag)
@RabbitofHorror
Yikes... They sound completely unhinged...
9:23 AM - Sep 30, 2025 - 25 Views

Ollie Barder @Cacophanus - Sep 30, 2025
Gatekeepig is still the wrong word for protecting fandoms, as there is no physical wy to limit access to new fans, but we do need to stop the formation of cliquey power structures fuelled by narcissism.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 30, 2025
Yeah there's no reward for having a track record for being right and decent to people. There are a ton of incentives to be a provocateur and enrage to engage.

Part of the problem is the framing of a given fandom as only one thing at a time.

Liana Kerzner reposted
trnalated cats @TranslatedCats - Sep 26, 2025
Look at the face to relieve stress.

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translated cats @TranslatedCats - Sep 29, 2025
Calling for sympathy points from mothers, I'm being bullied by netizens.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Wow Twitter hasn't changed at all xince it's become X. It's still a bunch of assholes competing to use the biggest words to say stupid shit.
1:17 PM - Sep 30, 2025 - 514 Views

The Rabbit - back in the frozen wastel... @Rabbitof... - October 1st, 2025
At least there's still some sort of kindness and fun interaction here and there. It is getting hard to find it though...

Clocked @Clocked0 - sep 30, 2025
Welcome to the human race, do you want fries with your order?

The Rabbit - back in the frozen wast... @Rabbito... - Sep 30, 2025
Soem trolls are so weird. You let them out of the penalty box after a few weeks and then they immediately foam from the mouth making demands like, "BLOCK ME!" and "STOP UNBLOCKING ME!"

They must check on my account every day to figure that they're out of the penalty box 😬

[image of a Barbie-like doll with big eyes and the caption YIKES!]

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 30, 2025
The best is when they block you, then send you something linking you to a tweet of their's, and you wonder "that's weird I'm blocked" only to find out they unblocked you just to pull more crap

The Rabbit - back in the frozen wast... @Rabbito... - Sep 30, 2025
Oh 100% My stalker has done that. Now he just obsessively spams follow on me despite manually removing him as a follower and/or blocking him a couple times.

Thankfully he's more daft than dangerous, so I have no porblem just muting and letting him scream into the void.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Sep 30, 2025
See I didn't used to block. Now I do. Because if they block evade, I know they're super obsessed and it's an anti gaslighting reminder.

The Rabbit - back in the frozen wasteland (canada)
@RabbitpHorror
Hmmm fair enough, that's a good point. Perhaps blocking is exactly the right thing in this circumstance.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Super proud of the way @bobbyiceman does his thing and is unabashedly, authentically himself.
9:40 AM - Oct 3, 2025 - 434 Views

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
People don't have to agree with me that being on kiwi farms AT ALL is a bad idea (least of which because Malwarebytes goes CRAZY even opening the site). But I do believe it is a bad idea. Here is why... 🧵

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Kiwi farms doesn't operate in the realm of truth. It operates based on what they can warp to make a person look as bad as possible. By going there, you're regularly exposing yourself to a warped reality. I've seen multiple people start believing stuff due to repetition...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... even when they actively knew, only a few months prior, that it was a crock. I konw I'm talked about on that place, but the idea of signing up for an account to see what they're saying is a bad idea. I don't care what they're saing. It's not true. (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
If someone is a friend and doing something I think is unhealthy, I'll tell them what I think, and I have a right to step away if it gets toxic. But if someone I do businses with is connected to kiwi farms... that's an instant cutting of ties. Why? ...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Havnig a shitty friend isn't unethical. There are a lot of thigs friends of mine do that I don't agree with. ((I'm getting more strict about that nwyay). But bsiness is a totally different story. In busines, you're asknig people for thei rmoney...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... bsiness transactions have an element of a handshake deal, so there has to be trust. And trust it hard to build and easy to destroy. Some poeple may think I'm too strict, and that's fine, but it's what I have to do to sleep at night...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... I grew up. I know what it's like to save up for something, only to be taken. And I know that people talk shit about you no mattter how clean a ship you run. We live in an era where the behaviour of even family members of employees are scrutinized and you're held to it(m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Rightly or wrongly, Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson are asked about JK Rowling's horrid views. It should be clear by their own activities they don't agree with her, but people demanded they make it clear. The entire Kennedy family get asked about RK Jr. That's the world. (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Especially on the issue of transphobia, nerves are raw for good reasons. We can agree or disagree on what constitutes transphobic behaviour, but I expect people who work with me to listen and adapt when I tell them that a statement is not in keeping with myvalues. (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
I've been called transphobic myself. I've been called a chaser. These things are not true. Sometimes, however, someone explains to me why a particular sentiment is unhelpful. In those cases I listen, precisely BECAUSE I don't want to work against progress. (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 20025
I'vve also cut ties with people for racism, even for being abusive towards men. It's always a difficult decision and I don't get it right. It's also difficult to determine how much information to share. People are likely going to howl even about thse comment...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... There is a huge difference between focusing on ideas - ie: this is what someone said about me, this is why it's not true, and name dropping someone in a searchable format that coul dharm ucrrent or future employment. I focus on ideas...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Balancing freedom of speech and human dignity is difficult. Running a business requires one to deal with unfair criticism at times. No business owner has the luxury of running away from that because it's hard. The longer you wait to act, the bigger your action must be...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
And social media is a "if you dish it out, you'd better be ablt to take it" environment. You can't expect to run your mouth and not be called on it. People diggint up years old tweets isn't fair. Pointing out you said somethin last week is. Accountability has gotten lost (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
No matter who you are, i fyou have ANY profile online, people are going to hate on you. You are going to make mistakes. And in those moments where there is no clear proof, or things are presented out of context to make you look as bad as possible, your reputation matters. (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Back in the day I was accused of doing omething on 4chan. I could unequivocally state that I have never posted on 4chan in my life. I have done exactly 1 Reddit AMA. I do not have anon alts. AT ALL. There is a very good reason for this...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
...As soon as there is a hint you MIGHT be on these sites, conspiracies run wild. So my business rule is that NO ONE I do business with, to my knowledge, is involved in places like kiwi farms. No one I work with is in a position to have their work tampered by someone who is.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Someone may not agree with these busines boundaries, but I have the right to set them and set core values for my initiatives. I don't even keep digital files on my lcients. It's all pen and paper, in case I'm ever hacked. Yeah, I'm hypervigilant. Blame the PTSD.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
o, yes, i fyou work with me, and I find out that someone you live with is on kiwi farms, even as a lurker, we are done. It's just too easy once you've crossed that rubicon to be accused of facilitating AWFUL stuff, and proving a non event is very difficult.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
People are really pissed at me that I didn't get all cheerleader behind them outing kiwi farmers months ago. But holy hell it's kiwi farms. The really bad actors there are just going to deny its them and go full crybully on the accusers. Which is exactly what happened...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... I'm now being expected to know what messages ar real and which messages are fake, based on communications patterns of a person I've never met and can't identify. And my inability to do that is being treated as deliberate. Thing is...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
I got some weird activity through the contact form on my webstie in March through May of this year. We just blocked the IP becauseit looked inauthentic. And yet the people being imperonated are now publicly claiming I didn't believe them...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... Thing is, they never contacted me directly .They put it online, assuing I'd see it, even though I have them blocked and don't look at what they say unless I'm alerted to them saying untrue things about me AGAIN. I can't act on claims from an unreliable source...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... I don't know why these people, who have a track record of false claims about me, expect me to believe their claims about anyone else when there's evidence they get it so thoroughly wrong. And this is being highly charitable regarding their motivations...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... it doesn't atter if someone is wrong accidentally or maliciously. If they have a pattern of bad judgement, that is just so. And publicly confronting a kiwi farmer is, in my opinion, HORRIBLE judgement. THey'll just lie an duse it for a freh round of tattacks...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... which is exactly what happened. And now the people who picked an extremely public fight with someone they claim is bdangerous are blaming me for th consequences of that choice. If someone is dangerous, call the bloody police. And stop naming them publicly...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... Blaming me for that stuff, which appars to have started long before I knew them, isn't going to make it stop. It's only going to create more attack vector against them. I can't let them make false claims about me unanswered just because of other factors in their lives.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
They keep insisting I'm saing they ARE things in their entire being, instead of the truth, which is that the details I reference are invoked to disprove their CLAIMS, not invalidate them as people. The assertion that personal malice is driving me is aburd....

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... It's just a fact of the internet that false claims, no matter how absurd, can get traction. I was once accused of falsifying game reviews scores because of a comedy routine I did. It's bizarre, but it's the reality...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... They also get angry that I don't name them, insisting it's "manipulative". On the contrary, because I am refuting their CLAIM, there is no need to name them, andI have no desire to create a permanent stain on their reputation via searchable comments...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... This is precisely because a kiwi farmer got into my discord server and keyword searched every truthful reference I made about these people. One of them has a diagnosed personality disorder and therefore an unstable sense of self...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... Why in god's name woul dI ocntinue to do something that can get weaponized against someone who has a mental illness through no fault of their own? Yeah, this person has behaved super badly in the past. Doesn't make them a bad person...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... I have to deal with the reality that even my private discord is no longer private because they keep baiting kiwi farms and kiwi farms knows stuff from me upsets them. I know I'm not the target. They are. But they keep falling out of the context dox...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... I can't stop what's happening to them. And everything I do to try to minimize the kiwi farms harm is twisted into some sort of nefarious action. Their claims about me ARE. NOT. TRUE. And I have the right to refute THE CLAIMS. No, I'm not going to mention names, because...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... every time I do, kiwi farms uses it to point and laugh and display how the people "exposed" them shit the bed yet again. And I know one of these people can't help it, because their condition means they struggle with impulse control....

Liana Kerzner @redlianak Oct 4, 2025
So no, I'm not going to start naming people, no matter how many tweets, videos or blogs are put out there trying to bait me. They're even dragging third parties into things, under absolutely RIDICULOUS assumptions of twets. How bad is it? ...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
In one of their "truth" videos, they insist a friend of mine "snide" to them. The post in question was sincere. The person who sent it didn't know who they were talking to at the time. They apologized to me because they didn't know that's who was giving me a hard time....

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
That's been the absuridity this whole time. The people freaking out over multiple social media platforms assume EVERYONE knows who they are, & they don't. Either they never knew in the first place, or they have forgotten. An dI'm not going to help them wreck their lives (m)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Despite their claims to the contrary, I am not trying to hurt them and I don't want to see them harmed. It's very difficult to know what is actually going to upset them beaue they lack self awarenessa and claim they can handle things it turns out they can't....

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... Logically, since they're popping off at least since January of this year, "if they can dish it out, they should be able to take it" applies. But they can't. And they blame me for hat. They keep naming me in claims that are stated as fact which are RIDICULOUS...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... For instance, they claim I trash former clients on my Discord server. This is stupid: I have numerous clients ON THAT SERVER. If I did that, I would lose business.
They also claim I release confidential information. To date...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... They are the only ones who have released the legal full name of a client in a derogatory fashion. The ONE client that I referred EVER, to one of them, because I though tthey would be of more help in a creative project...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... If they had such a problem with what I do, why were they working for me? Any discussions I had with them about clients was for WORK PURPOSES. That is not divulging confidential information to people who are not directly involved in the business...

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
... If they then release that information, that is THEM divulging confidential information, not me. And they have done that at least once. They have threatened in videos to dump more dirt, which, even if it was true, would be horribly out of date by now. They really need to stop.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4, 2025
Combatting more falsehoods about me:
I did not wait months to kick a kiwi farmer from my server. The person in question was not in my erver. He tried to rejoin months later and that was when I confronted and blocked him.

I really wish people  would just stop.

MadCapMunchkin @MadCapMunchkin - Oct 4, 2025
I was really confuse for a moment and then remember that that site exists.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 4. 2025
Yeah it came back.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Thanks for correcting me, kiwi farmer who just sent a phony message to my contact form. You are correct. The exact quote was "prepetrator" of "sexual violence", not "sexual abuse".

Dear god this has gotten weird.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Bad people make excuses.
Good people make solutions.

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Dedicating a song...
https://asherwolfstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/2026-02-12-20.44.00-x.com-92b95d1f7871.avif

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 11, 2025
Apparently this is "punching down" according to those who breach the privacy of dozens of people because they got upset, and now won't take it down.

Ozzina Arcane @OzzinaArcane - Oct 11, 2025
If someone said that to me. I woul dpoint out "I guess it ispunching down since you're less intelligent than me. But I don't care cause I have no patience for the stupid of the world." But I'm a bit more of an asshole than you.

Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 11, 2025
And then they, and at least one other person, would respond with lengthy drivel that increasingly makes you question their sanity. Then they would accuse you of "mental health stigma" when you questioned their sanity.

The internet is not good for some people.

Ozzina Arcane
@OzzinaArcane
It certainly did seem more sophisticated back when you had to have a computer to access it instead of every joe shmoe with a cell phone.
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Oct 12, 2025
I'm not going to respond to emails backdoor accusing me of being on kiwi farms.

Fuck off I'm being stalked. How many times do I have to fucking say I am not on fucking kiwi farms? Lose my fucking contacts you fucking obsessives.

Ron Harwood
@hazardplay
I was going to show my ignorance and then I decided to google "kiwi farms" (admittedly with the trepidation of half-expecting smething like "lemon party")... still kinda disgusted, but in a diferent way.
9:35 PM - Oct 12, 2025 - 64 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Reassuring. People love to throw the abuse I suffered as a kid in my face as if that makes me forevr broken. A model that gets away from that would be great. x.com/MarkLRuffalo/s...

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
"What can look to others like 'choices' are not, actually, being 'chosen' by us- they're conditioned responses installed by the abuse and neglect of our bullies and abusers, often years or decades ago." - Wise words by @DrDoyleSays
10:33 AM - Oct 22, 2025 - 506 Views

Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Since someone got really really really mad that I posted a Sabrina Carpenter video, I'm gonna be extra nice and and share some Mega Thee Stallion now! (If you too think this is misandrist and homophobic, you too can seek serious help)

Liana Kerzner @redlianak Oct 25, 2025
Apparently all it takes for some people to think you're talking about them is to post a Sabrina Carpenter video.
Like I knew certain people were obsessed I did not realize they were THAT obsessed. They're literally making up thought crimes I've done now.
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Blazen Dragon @BDragonaire Oct 25, 2025
[emoji]Huh? U just posted a Sabrina Carpenter music video? (I don't know her music catalog. I just saw that she was in tha Boy Meets World reboot, Girl Meets World and her jeans non-controversy). [emoji]Tax, like Lauren Juaregui stated, it is CLEARLY an emo energy grab!!
[gif of a woman from cosmopolitan with the words "I'M RIGHT"]

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Liana Kerzner @redlianak Oct 26, 2025
Yeah I linked to the video for Manchild with the text "dedication"

And the funny thing is, people just assuming that's about them flushes out the manchildren!

It was actually a joke because a friend of mine and I were to listening to it on repeat
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Blazen Dragon @BDragonaire Oct 26, 2025
Ok ok. And yea [emojies] it usually happens that was [emojis] And it's the recipient of song dedication gets it. While tha others who do not aren't in on tha ref/symbolism, mask slip & being gettin' [emoji] That's why u mad/that's why u, why u mad mad [emojis] Watch tha song get dem mo [emojis]
[embedded gif of woman clapping and smiling in an interview]
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak Oct 26, 2025
I'm just not someone who normally pays attention to other people's drama, so the people who do it are really odd to me.
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Blazen Dragon @BDragonaire Oct 26, 2025
Yea, same here. I clock out when there's drama unfoldin'. Tha only time, I am involved in drama, if it's me or loved ones!! Look at it diplomatically cuz people will use us, who are natural protectors, when they are in tha one in tha wrong. Thus, end that bond and find a new one
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Blazen Dragon @BDragonaire Oct 26, 2025
Wit tha other party who was beefin' and drama wit those former loved ones too. And then, u beefin' wit dem former ones. It's a never endin' drama, attention seekin', and energy grabs cyclone/whirlpool
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Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
Yeah in my case, I literally got a lawyer involved, so their FRIENDS started giving me a hard time. I blocked the friend and the original goober was right back at it. Like, okay, you don't like me. Go away.
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak Nov 3, 2025
The "fun" of trying to reduce drama in one's life is that getting rid of dramatic people is, in itself, drama filled, and a lot of those people have way too much time on their hands. The right to be left alone is as under threat as many other rights.
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the Eldritch Prince @eldritch_prince Nov 3, 2025
you cannot defuse drama bombs. They'll go off intentionally if you try to ensure the drama happens.

They don't want people walking away
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak Nov 3, 2025
And then the drama bombs blame everyone but them for the drama.

The only thing you can do is eat the shit to get away
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the Eldritch Prince @eldritch_prince Nov 3, 2025
a bomb cannot blame itself. To do so it deny its purpose.

However, people who are such bombs are always to blame and will need to stew in that.

Have an unrelated thing to dm that might be a good talking point on one of your episodes
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Sure!
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Ozzina Arcane @OzzinaArcane Nov 3, 2025
I used to be part of a group of video creators that kind of popped up around the old Channel Awesome fanbase. I've distances myself from most of them silently because having them in my feed is just... insufferable as the years went on.
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Ozzina Arcane @OzzinaArcane Nov 3, 2025
With you and the focus of your channel. I totally get some of the topics on your social media goes into. But no one follows someone who's video focus is bashing crappy cartoons to watch them just got on non stop oposts about politics or IRL drama.
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak Nov 3, 2025
That's why I backed away from that group too. The whole ting increasingly needed finding of hinges.
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Ozzina Arcane @OzzinaArcane Nov 3, 2025
Yeah it's just really weird for me since for me some of them had been colleagues. I used to run a poor man's attempt at competing called Reviewer's Unknown. I think I'm only still friends with like... 3 of the contributors.
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Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
The big problem with that era of the internet was that experienced producers were scarce. People got really big and cracked up, because there was no one properly managing a sustainable business.
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Liana Kerzner
@redlianak
This whole thread is great. I'll add that in my experience, the people who most liberally throw around the word "narcissist" at other people show symptoms of NPD themselves.
[Quote Tweet] Jonathan Shedler [Blue Checkmark] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
1/ One of most important things I've learned:

Sever personality problems find *camouflage.* No one thinks "I'm a sadist" or "I'm a malignant narcissist."
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
... No one thinks "I'm a sadist" or "I'm a malignant narcissist."

They find a belief system/social group that validates their most hateful, destructive impulses & construes them as virtues.
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] Aug 6, 2024
2/ The most toxic and hateful people in the world are 100% convinced they fight on the side of all that is true and right.
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
3/ They find a way to give free reign to their cruelty, to attack, to treat others crueely and viciously.

*And they find allies to cheer them on* who also believe they are on the side of all that is true and good.
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
4/ For professional colleagues looking for more theoretical explanation, the psychological processes are splitting, projection and projective identification.

Splitting means not recognizing one's own capacity for hate, cruelty and destructiveness. The person is blind to the bad
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
5/ in themselves. Instead, they project the badness onto some designated other. And this other person or group, via the defense of projection, is now seen as the repository of all that is bad and evil, that must be attacked and destroyed.

That's the projection
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
6/ The person now feels fully justified in unleashing their viciousness & hate on the other person, who is now seen (via projection) as someone monstrous who should be destroyed.

If the person on the receiving end of the projection responds to the intense provocation with anger
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check] @JonathanShedler Aug 6, 2024
7/ or dares to fight back in any way, this is now seen as further proof of how hateful and evil they are-and why attacking them is just and right. This is what is called "projective identification."
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Jonathan Shedler [blue check]
@JonathanShedler
8/ The end result is that the person can deny their own sadism, cruelty and hate-while simultaneously acting it out without restraint. And feel themselves to be 100% on the side of truth and right as they do it.
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak Nov 3, 2025
Be very careful using "strange" or "weird" as an insult. If you have anything that isn't 100% normal about you, using that against someone is hypocrisy.
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That John Anthony Wilcox Guy
@JohnAWilcox
After all, what IS "normal?"
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Liana Kerzner @redlianak - Jan 11
@EvanLSolomon any response to York Regional police telling me that X doesn't respond to police inquiries?

Because a detective super casually told me "yeah they just never respond when we request information".
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